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Edited by Alchemill:
4/6/2024 10:56:30 PM
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✨ Nerf Conditional Finality! ✨
You want me to believe that it’s not a meta-defying weapon when literally everybody in their grandma constantly runs around with it, like there isn’t a special ammo transmat meter?
I swear to God, I die from conditional more than any other gun in the game, it’s much more annoying to deal with it now because you can’t predict whether some little shitter has two shots of conditional or 12 shots. Genuinely makes me wonder why we even have a special transmit system to begin with, when it seems like 9 times out of 10 someone always has ammo for conditional. Not to mention, it literally can instant kill every super in the game.
Don’t know why I bothered coming back to this game. it’s actually so depraving to play PVP. I guess the solution to “fixing PVP” was to make zero skill gaps whatsoever.
I literally let my eight-year-old cousin who is just now getting into fps games play with conditional this season (after sandbox changes) and in one sitting He went on “a we ran outta medals” but I’m crazy right?
Glad to know bungie still doesn’t have the slightest clue how to balance their game. 👏🏻
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13 RepliesIts literally our only counter to bubble/well which are wayyy more broken in zone trials.
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1 ReplyConditional is fine. It’s overused because it’s the best counter for bubble and well. Did you also try idk not engaging the shotgun ape within shotgun range or better yet use a shotgun against a shotgun? If that doesn’t help try aiming I hear it helps.
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3 RepliesNot until either dominions GONE, or well and bubble get hit with something in pvp.
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The vast majority of the time I get hit with it I'm within a range that just about any consistent shotgun would kill me.
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Edited by Kurama: 4/9/2024 10:14:42 PMBecause nerfing the most reliable counter to well and bubble is such a great idea…
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It does not need a nerf (and i am strongly against ‘most’ nerfs in the game) It’s a shotgun, it kills up close. Only thing it has on an adept astral is the fact it can take out a Titan in a bubble and thank god it does.
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I'm actually glad it deals with Wards and Wells so effectively. They'd be even more oppressive in Trials if Conditional didn't exist. I could maybe see it getting a Handling nerf. It's way out of band compared to other Shotguns in it's archetype.
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I don't have it, I get nuked by it in Crucible but I am against a nerf. Stop -blam!- and crying for nerfs and just find a way to counter it... If you're putting yourself within shotgun range when you know people are running around with it, that's on you. Stop -blam!- for nerfs of everything that kill you.
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2 RepliesIt’s fine, yes even as a bubble main who despises the gun 🥲
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No. Having to clear enough of the same raid for a drop is worth the power of it. As someone who does not have the weapon, and gets steamrolled by it in The Crucible, I’d rather it doesn’t get nerfed.
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Why do people keep asking to nerf anything good in this game?
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1 ReplyThat's wild your 8 year old cousin is better than you at the game
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1 ReplyTitan your cabals and try again Guardian!
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rrrhinoformerly known as EarthlyJaguar0 - old
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9 RepliesI dint find CF to be that OP. Especially with the Slide Melee/Shot Nerf. You have to play smart against them, like with any shotgun. Don’t run against corners, especially if you are playing close range. Make sure you jump away from cover so they can’t just run and gun. Etc. Conditionals primary hindrance is its range. It’s good for shutting things down and punishing players if they get too close, but even Apes are going to have a hard time using it due to its lack of reach. Play Smart.
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I have gotten three we rans. My first was pre nerf arc titan, my second was the craftening (rip eager/eager throne cleaver), and my third was trying out conditional. That about sums up my experience with the gun.
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2 RepliesNurf it into the ground That’s what bungie does best They could just tweak it a little to make it not so dominant. But hey we all no it will just get nurfed to the ground
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3 RepliesEdited by Kenny: 4/8/2024 9:59:05 AMSo much copium in this thread, LMAO. Don't you worry Zilla, it's gonna get nerfed for the simple reason that everybody and their mom is using it, especially in high level PVP... just like Felwinter, 50 years ago. But right now it's a pay2win gun, you need to buy the DLC and then play the raid (player engagement baby) so bungie is not in a hurry to do some nerfing. Just wait till FS is out. Stuff like this happened to many guns before, and it will happen again.
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No, git gut lol
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2 RepliesI’m just tired having my bubble ended early cause of a one tap…. Never in my life did I think I’d have to ask for something to be put down a little cause I wanna go back to 1v1ing a hunter after they pop my bubble with their goldy. If I save up my super I should be able to use it without having to worry if I see the lil shotgun flashlight show up. It’s a bubble for heavens sake. Anyways good day guardians.
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shut yo mouffff
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7 RepliesWeird way of letting us know you suck at pvp
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If someone has so many special in their pocket, it means they have good primary shots.
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I don't have it, but I agree it's strong. That being said isn't that what you want from an exotic? It's used so much due to its utility and the handling makes it easily swappable in a pinch.
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19 RepliesA lot of people are in denial. It's overused for a reason. If you don't get the one kill, it'll either freeze or ignite the target, still giving the kill. The special ability is too easy to proc in pvp. If a shotgun has more kills than most primary weapons, it's an issue
