[quote]A lot of people are in denial. It's overused for a reason. If you don't get the one kill, it'll either freeze or ignite the target, still giving the kill. The special ability is too easy to proc in pvp. If a shotgun has more kills than most primary weapons, it's an issue[/quote] It’s a shotgun that counters annoying things. 99% of the time it just works like a shotgun.

Correction, it's literally the best shotgun. And it's special perk proc allows for it stun lock a player even if they didn't kill them with the shot because of the freeze or ignition triggering. Not to mention, it counters all supers. There's no risk reward with the shotgun because their is no risk. It's all reward. It completely stomps out the competition by being better in every way and its stat package being stacked to match.

Outside of a well or bubble I have never seen a player survive the shotgun blast itself to die from either the freeze or the ignition.

The risk is getting into shotgun range of a super without getting absolutely demolished

That isn't a risk. Every time a super is popped, there's a risk, and you have to team fire or run if it's popped unless you have heavy normally. Conditional is the only special weapon that will instant kill supers, something that most heavy weapons can't do. I have a better chance at shutting down a super with that shotgun than any other gun in the game, and I'm not changing my loadout at all to do so.

[quote]Correction, it's literally the best shotgun. And it's special perk proc allows for it stun lock a player even if they didn't kill them with the shot because of the freeze or ignition triggering. Not to mention, it counters all supers. There's no risk reward with the shotgun because their is no risk. It's all reward. It completely stomps out the competition by being better in every way and its stat package being stacked to match.[/quote] 99% of the time it functions as a normal shotgun. A nerf would only harm its ability to counter abilities like well and bubble, which are not abilities that need fewer counters.

Can you read? I literally explained how it doesn't function as a normal shotgun. It literally has an amped shot package, with subclass verbs that'll either outright kill or freeze you, even if you shoot from outside its intended range. 1 weapon shouldn't be a counter to everything in pvp. That's what bungie likes to call "an overperforming outlier" and it's why many exotics that were much weaker, like no time to explain, were nerfed. The weapon is performing more out of band than any shotgun for a reason. It's overturned. It's stats are too high for how much power it gives. It's a problem. You can try and cope about that all you want, but weapon numbers show exactly that, it's a straight fact

[quote]Can you read? I literally explained how it doesn't function as a normal shotgun. It literally has an amped shot package, with subclass verbs that'll either outright kill or freeze you, even if you shoot from outside its intended range. 1 weapon shouldn't be a counter to everything in pvp. That's what bungie likes to call "an overperforming outlier" and it's why many exotics that were much weaker, like no time to explain, were nerfed. The weapon is performing more out of band than any shotgun for a reason. It's overturned. It's stats are too high for how much power it gives. It's a problem. You can try and cope about that all you want, but weapon numbers show exactly that, it's a straight fact[/quote] It functions exactly as a normal shotgun. There are shotguns that outrage it even. What it does more than a legendary shotgun is counter abilities that increase health, such as well and bubble. The necessity of a weapon that can counter these is the cause of its high usage. And that you don’t need rng to get the role you want for a legendary. It does not have shotpackage. It has a unique spread for each of its shots. Neither provides any substantial increase in consistency over other shotguns. From tests that I have seen, precision frames still offer the most consistent spread for one shot kills at range. It can no longer freeze or trigger an ignition outside of its kill range. This was changed in update 7.3.5. [quote]Conditional Finality Fixed an issue where the Freeze and Ignition effects could sometimes be applied at extremely long distances.[/quote]

I'm just convinced you can't read or you have reading comprehension issues.

You're the one who can't read the dude just broke down how the gun works and gives nothing but facts, whereas you've done nothing but cry over your feelings about the gun, maybe don't talk on subjects that you know nothing about

And they get to be in denial and live in their own little world. we’re all here for the same thing, to enjoy the game and have a good time. some people like broken -blam!-, and that’s okay, does it make it a healthy for the sandbox? No. Does it give it more fun values? Ofc.

It gives more fun value if you have it, but say you don't, seeing everyone use the same weapon just gets beyond annoying after a while

[quote]It gives more fun value if you have it, but say you don't, seeing everyone use the same weapon just gets beyond annoying after a while[/quote] Then get it yourself. It not only comes from the easiest raid, but it has the most drop rate boosting triumphs.

No weapon in pvp should be so strong that I physically have to raid just to have the best in slot secondary in the game. It shouldn't be a weapon that I HAVE to get. And if people are F2P, or have bad rng, guess they out of luck right? There is no justifying it's use rate and kill rate in pvp other than it's just vastly superior and needs to be brought in line with other shotguns