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originally posted in: ✨ Nerf Conditional Finality! ✨
4/7/2024 3:15:05 PM
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Its literally our only counter to bubble/well which are wayyy more broken in zone trials.
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  • Edited by Avory: 4/7/2024 3:16:43 PM
    Only counter bro forgot about witherhoard And near enough every other super in the game

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  • Yeah no lol. Works only against idiots. And is worthless outside of this very specific situation. CF is a shotgun so its way more effective for a whole match than witherhoard. Especially with the current special ammo system.

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  • Witherhoard is almost guaranteed to get you killed in the process though.

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  • And conditional isn’t? The only way your beating a bubble titan with a conditional is if there not paying attention

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  • The number of times i did a straightline + slide to freeze / one shot a bubble user that was 100% aware of it.. It has nothing to do with not paying attention, but with pure reflex (and also having special ammo to one shot the CF uder before he does)

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  • And I haven’t lost to one once what’s your point under same circumstances It literally only would work on an idiot

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  • If you get your freezing shot off first, you're guaranteed a win in a 1v1. You can definitely survive using conditional against well or bubble.

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  • If they don’t have shotgun ammo maybe odds of beating a bubble if they see you coming in a 1v1 shotty v shotty are not in your favour by a long shot

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  • My guy, of course they'll still have an advantage in their super. But witherhoard doesn't take them out of the fight, so they will almost definitely take you out before dying. Meanwhile with CF you at least have a chance of killing them first. As a titan main I can say for sure that I've been deleted out of my bubble many times by CF, usually due to me paying attention to a player on the opposite side, while someone with CF flanks behind me.

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  • Yeah no -blam!- theyre in a super. But at least with conditional you have a fighting chance.

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  • I know stasis isn’t beloved by all the community, but I’m telling you stasis freeze punishes bubble and well, part of the reason conditional can even do what it does.

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  • Im pretty sure stasis cant do sh* to a well user. To my knowledge only conditional finality can freeze somebody in a well. And diamond lance frop titans can freeze the well itself. But outside of thay nothing can be done with stasis

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  • Try fighting a behemoth, or a silence and squall in well. (only stasis warlock supers and shatter dive can’t out beat a well) frost pulse freeze riff is an instant kill if you can melee after freeze. Also, the only thing that makes conditional good against supers is the fact that it freezes somebody, and then you can immediately shatter them with it after… that is literally the baseline of how stasis freeze works, People just don’t understand how to use it. Without the stasis part of conditional, (the part that instant kills supers) that gun would be dog -blam!-.

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