Lagging when you leave is something they could have and might still fix. The burden is on them to change it because the consumer is only using the device in the way it was intended. I can quit out of my game any time I like or that feature wouldn't exist. I can understand players being angry that the game was made that way, but the idea that Bungie could get upset at their customers because of something they designed :/

I completely understand your point. Youre right, it shouldnt work in the first place. But just because its there doesnt means its still not abuse using it.

I think most users want to find shortcuts because the rng system is screwed and the game is actually pretty hard if you don't have good guns, armor, or aren't the right level, and the grinding to get to that point is much too dull and repetitive. Honestly, as much time as it takes to complete the raids I'm not sure I will be playing destiny if they cut out the cheesing. Even with cheesing I don't get good shit! I couldn't imagine liking wasting 6 hours to get chatterewhite. I really just wish there was no cheating but the game was a tad bit easier. Or maybe everyone just sucks at gaming, it just everyone I've played with and myself.

Well non cheesing it takes us 35-40 min for VoG and about an hour to 90min for Crotas End