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Give me where it states in game or the Grimoire cards that your character died before the Traveller was discovered. The only mention of your death that I can remember is your Ghost saying you've been dead for a long time, which is a very broad term. By the start of the game the city has been standing for centuries: 'It took centuries to build.' - Ghost on first arrival at the Tower. Your character died sometime after the Traveller's last stand, which happened centuries ago. Most likely after construction on the City had started.
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  • Why would the Speaker need to explain to us what the Traveler was and what had happened if we had already known that much? Why did our Ghosts have to explain what the Fallen/Hive/Vex/Cabal were?

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  • Well, as players we don't know that, do we? The Speaker explaining that to our Guardian is him also explaining it to us, the players. As far as the enemies goes, we've only just started to really explore our lost worlds again. After the disaster that was the first attempt to retake the Moon, we became reluctant to go beyond Earth to any great extent. Mars was also deemed too dangerous for many Guardians to explore (too many died at the hands of the Cabal). Since we are a new Guardian and probably had little to no prior knowledge of life beyond Earth, being just a normal citizen of the City, or someone living out in Earth's wilderness, we'd need some things explaining to us. For example, Ghost explaining some of the Cabal background to us to give us some idea of what they're about. The inhabitants of the City obviously know that the Traveller exists and they know Guardians exist, but they may not know [b]how[/b] we exist: i.e. that we're resurrected.Some of the Grimoire cards point towards internal political strife in the City (rigging of Crucible matches, for example). The fact that we were dead may be a closely guarded secret. Censorship to keep the masses happy and all that So, when a new Guardian is (re)born, a little info about the Traveller and our enemies is provided. The only race the regular citizens of the City would have any firsthand knowledge of is the Fallen because of the Battle of Twilight Gap. I also remember a card stating the Cabal were at the battle but to what extent isn't mentioned. Obviously, some of this is conjecture and speculation on my part. Still don't think playing as an Awoken breaks the lore, though.

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  • No your character died BEFORE the Traveler's last stand. Ghosts didn't exist until the beginning of the Dark Age after the Collapse. Guardians came into being before the Creation of the Last City as they were instrumental in defending the borders until the walls were complete.

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  • Edited by APathwayThrough: 10/19/2014 1:09:53 PM
    Where does it state that we died before the last stand? I know that Guardians were defending the survivors whilst the City was built. But like I said, that took centuries. So at least 200 years has passed since the beginning of the City and the start of the game. Which means your character could have died 100 years ago and have been dead a long time, as the Ghost says. Meaning your character can be any of the races. I'll admit there are obvious aspects of the dialogue in parts of the game which point to a story reshuffle; as if each race may have had unique dialogue but it was cut, for whatever reason.

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