I never see these guns in the crucible unfortunately. Even myself, I have a few that have good rolls on them but they can't compete because of the extremely poor stability on them.
Hoping Bungie can look at these guns and make them perform better in the crucible.
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Maybe because of guns like Lyudmila (SP?). 4 round bursts. That thing can be a beast in a skilled hand. Haven't gotten one with a roll that beats my PDX's stability yet, so keep falling back to it when I get frustrated with the Lyud. Maybe if I can get one with a touch more stability one day....