I'm actually loving my Grim Citizen lll. Got it with crowd control and counterbalance. I've outgunned people using mida and tlw. Doesn't happen all the time, but it is possible. I've killed people using hawksaws, nirwens, and all other kinds of guns. I think it's just timing. That's been my experience anyway.
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Yeah, but still they really do need a slight base damage nerf. Nothing too much, just a slight adjustment to auto rifles were they are a go to weapon on most maps.
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I completely agree with you