Yea they do but let me put it this way if they get a buff they may become to much for all the whiners that will put up nerf post for pvp. Auto rifles need a buff for pve so they can do the same there suppose to for as many bullets that come out of many of the auto rifles. But if they get a pve buff it will buff them for pvp an everyone will start to have problem with them. So what would happen to pvp if the doctrine or soulstealer get a buff in damage an impact because we want them to do damage in pve. I see so many people getting there panties in a twist an saying nerf auto rifles because they do what there suppose to do after a buff to help them in pve. So as much as I can say that yes they need a buff for pve cause alot of auto rifles would do well in pve if they had the correct amount of damage an impact they need to be buffed in pve only an stay as they are for pvp. But then again someone will see what I said an insult me rather then have a decent discussion so maybe this make since to people or I'll just get insulted an disrespected an I'll just report you.