I know, that melee nkuch did hit that guy from Africa! Shoulder charges are good for me at least, I heard people say that they always wiff their shoulder charges since the hit registration is terrible. Watch cammy cakes, he one shot a guardian with a throwing knife with full health. He had the burning damage on the knives, and used the exotic that gives you lingering damage when you melee someone. He crouches, throws the knife while going invis at the time the knife hits the target, and so the lingering damage stacks