Except we have had content taken. We can't do Nightfalls, Heroic strikes, Daily missions, or play regular playlists anymore. All of these were advertised and shipped as part of the base game, not requiring DLCs. Now, you [i]must[/i] pay $40 to get access to content that has always been a part of the game and accessible. That is literally the definition of taking content and locking it behind a paywall.
Even on weeks/days where vanilla strikes/missions are chosen, you can't play them without TTK due to the level requirements. That's literally what taking content is, and you have to be a special kind of stupid to not believe that.
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They took some content away from people that didn't renew their "subscription" Don't like it? Don't play it? [spoiler]bye now[/spoiler]
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What excellent logic by the drones.
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Show me where they said they were obliged to keep letting you do nightfalls and heroics (the only stuff that was "taken away") Because I can show you where they said destiny is their product and is only letting you use it. Calling me a drone but you're the one that wants to be here trying to rant for no reason but not move on?
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Did you buy TDB?
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I bought the DGE of Destiny last year, so yes. If you're thinking that "oh they used the Omnigul strike as the Nightfall and Heroic" is a valid argument, let me stop you there. The soft level requirement for it was 30, so when a vanilla strike was chosen anyone could play. On top of that, anyone could hit 32 with TDB, and nearly everyone was already 30. Vendor gear was purchasable by anyone, allowing them to hit 31 with all vendor gear even then.
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What I mean is you and I paid for the season pass $35 if I remember right and everyone that didn't was stuck at 30 until IB finally dropped 32 gear and those people could not play anything TDB related I guess right?
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Yeah, and not being able to play ttk isn't the issue, that's totally fine and makes sense. The issue arises when the level cap is going to prevent me from playing Vanilla or TDB/HoW strikes and Daily missions.
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That's what I was getting to. The expansion for 2.0.0/TTK restructured the base of the game itself. In other words to expand on what's old and worth keeping alive needs to be revamped into the new content. So allowing the ones who are not willing to get the expansion the ability to lvl up to 40 and be the same without spending a dime doesn't sit well either does it?
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Except anyone could hit the level cap in the old DLCs without paying either. The level cap for the Nightfall was always at a point where you could play it using old gear, and not need to be at the max level. Even the Heroic capped out at 30. Dailys too, on non DLC days (in which case it was 32). Now? You [u]must[/u] have ttk in order to play [i]Vanilla[/i] content. I'm not sure how you think that that's a good idea.
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I know what you mean and thanks for having an intelligent conversation and not an argument with me. There is 2 sides to it in the end I guess. (1) In getting this game off the ground there needed to be some things that were given away so to speak to entice gamers to want to see it expand ie: desire to purchase the DLC's to be part of its evolving story/end game. (2) TTK destiny evolving into a game that is a huge step in the right direction for how it plays and in doing so has parameters that don't allow what's been done in the past for players without DLC but this is an expansion and the way its set up with new subclasses and leveling systems there would have to be even more separation playlists. At some point they have to move forward and in doing so keep the gamers hungry for more.
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Edited by cq13: 9/16/2015 8:40:10 PMWow. Dude the dailies weekly and nightfall will all be new content and probably will always be new content for quite a few weeks possibly months. Would it make you feel better if they put them on your screen and just said requires ttk? Do you see what I'm saying? I'm not trying to be rude at all just trying to understand. Why would you be able to do a daily when the daily mission is a ttk mission?
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Reread my post. I'm fine with not being able to play TTK missions when they're the choices, that's all well and good. That makes sense, the issue is that I can't play vanilla or TDB/HoW content when its a Nightfall, Weekly, or Daily anymore due to the level cap.
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Yeah if it is vanilla I would say you should be able to do that. I just don't think it's will be any vanilla content. I mean sans the rockets Mc dick face strike I don't think I remeber a nightfall/weekly/daily being vanilla in a while. I could be really wrong about that tho.
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Sick gamertag
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Thanks.