Before we start let me say first off I am no "Desticle" I have not bought TTK and I have no intention to do so until I see review scores and impressions that make me feel its worth my $40 purchase. So I am missing out on the new content just like you guys are. I don't drink the Kool Aid. I think that $40 for a DLC is a joke even if it is an "Expansion". I personally believe I am one of the most outspoken critics on the forums regarding TTK and its various scandals.
Then why am I bothering to post this you ask?
Because I believe in fairness and the ranting and raving I am seeing in thread after thread is not fair towards Bungie. It is a HUGE overreaction and the bombastic claims of being robbed of content and being scammed is just downright idiotic.
[b][u]You have not had any missions, strikes, raids, or weapons taken away from you that you have purchased. You can still play all the TDB missions/strikes, HoW missions/strikes and you can certainly still play the vanilla missions/strikes.
The same goes for the crucible. You still have every right to play the maps that you have already paid for in the classic playlists in the crucible. [/u][/b]
The only thing you have been locked out of is new endgame content like Nightfalls, Weeklies, Raid etc etc. That is not content that you bought that is a [i]FEATURE[/i] of the game. A feature that centers [i]around [/i]the latest content. When you bought TDB you bought the strikes, missions, gear etc etc and the Nightfall then took that content and featured it every week.
Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for.
So please stop acting as if Bungie came into your game and pulled all of the missions and gear from your bleeding fingers and pissed on your Ghost. This is how expansion based games have operated for YEARS now. The new expansion comes out with new gear, new missions, and a new level cap. That new content is then featured front and center in every way and the old content is pushed off to the side.
WoW, Diablo, SWTOR etc etc have followed this design for years. This is not new and this not shocking. They did it for TDB and they did it for HoW, but they did it on a smaller scale because they were smaller packages. TTK is essentially Destiny 1 part 2. So of course its impact on the day to day functionality of the game is gonna be MUCH more noticeable and much more profound.
You paid for content.
You got that content.
You [i]still have[/i] that content.
You can still play that content.
[i]Features[/i] such as the endgame activities however will always be geared toward the latest content and if you don't have that content then you obviouslly cannot participate in the features that use that new content.
The same goes for the levelcap as well. You paid for the level-cap to be increased in each of the new DLC's that came out because they were TIED to that content and you need that gear in order to REACH that new cap. They have now raised it again and have tied that cap to the new gear.
Gear you don't have access to because you have not paid for it yet.
So of [i]COURSE[/i] the Vendors are going to be selling the latest and greatest gear. Do you honestly think that they should still be selling old level Vanilla gear like Shadow Price or The Devil You Know even though its been outclassed ages ago?
I understand that you are upset that your options are limited now because the content you bought is no longer[i] featured[/i], but don't sit their and claim that it is no longer there or that you no longer have access to it.
Because it is and you do.
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This needs to be brought back bc I've seen no less than five people bitching about it
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Destiny: The Taken Kontent
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Edited by PONETHEPOON: 9/16/2015 3:34:57 PMDon't take this this wrong way, friend. But: [b][i]Trials of Osiris:[/i][/b] Specifically advertised as a [i]HUGE[/i] thing for [i]HoW[/i], also being half of its end game. [i]HoW[/i] purchasers that didn't buy [i]TTK[/i] can no longer access it. [b][i]Vanilla Destiny:[/i][/b] Allowed access to the basic Crucible playlist. [i]Post-TTK[/i] those players cannot access all of those modes. [b][i]Level 26+ Strikes for Vanilla-HoW[/i][/b]: Condensed to a single [i]level 20 playlist. [/i] [b][i]Vendor Access:[/i][/b] Factions, though low on interaction, were part of [i]Vanilla Destiny[/i] and were even accessible without the DLC's. They are no longer available to buy from in any capacity. [b][i]Marks:[/i][/b] Part of the original game, condensed for better functionality, but ultimately removed from people who didn't buy [i]TTK.[/i] I could go on. [b]Anyway, [i]you're wrong.[/i][/b] [spoiler]I bought TTK, but I think this was a big flick in the nutz to those who didn't.[/spoiler]
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Bump and like this comment if you agree this guy is stupid.
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[quote]Now that TTK is the latest content the Nightfall now features THAT content. So no you don't get to do the Nightfall because the Nightfall features new content. Content that you have not paid for. [/quote] If next week's nightfall is Omnigul people will still not be able to do it. The concept of nightfalls isn't new.
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@Coyote X Starrk You say not featured. I say if I can't play it - it's not there. Where will I get my strange coins for Xur? Or will Xur not have anything for me now anyway - just like all of the vendors? Y do u give such a crap that other ppl feel ripped off? It is their right! Who the hell are you to say their feelings aren't valid & they're wrong? You obviously don't know what it's like to grind on a game for a year to get the best things and level all your gear for nothing. Why have you made it your crusade to spend all day on this forum telling ppl not to talk to a company that says they're listening? (So long as u commit to giving them money on a regular basis)
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But but it was taken, by oryx, the taken king, he took it right? :p
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You do not have access to Daily Story mission, Weekly heroic story mission or Nightfall which were all included in year1 I'm purposely leaving out ToO and Iron Banner because I don't want to make to big of a fuss about you being completely wrong.
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See you said your not a Desticle, now I have to. Desticle
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I'm fairly certain you will be happy if you decide to spend the 40 in ttk. Well worth the price imo. Even if you only partly enjoyed year one.
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It cost me 60 bucks in Australia so you guys got it a bit easyer
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People won't be able to play Trials of Osiris. That was the selling point for HoW along with Poe.
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Thank you!!! Unfortunately the bitching will continue, but I'm glad their are intelligent men and women who play this game. I was starting to think everyone wad a child and incapable of comprehending these basic facts.
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I paid for the game and it came with nightfall and the iron banner can't do either of those now
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sure ill get working on my Queens bounties oh wait? so ill do my Eiris bounties oh wait ?, sorry i payed for ALL OF these expansions not just pieces , sure i can do PoE , i can run the story , there no dailies , no bounties , for those that dont play 7 days a week or those that are new picked it up later , and are Causal that haven't completed leveling up these things that they PAYED for . Im sorry but NO these people have the right to be upset , you payed for content that was locked out , removed and replaced with a paywall . i can see someone filing a class action suit if it hasn't happened already ,
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Well, logically one expansion should "expand" the game , not remove some things that you were allowed to play. Until now all the previous expansions still allowed players to arrive close to level cap, and play nightfall on the strikes that you had. I think that was more fair , than it is now.
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This is a destiny fanboy in his natural habitat.
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I do agree, i just think it sucks that my legendary and exotics are worse than uncommon TTK items:(
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You are so dumb. We're locked out of all the endgame content we already had access to before! Now hunger is locking out all non upgrades? That's retarded! Also I can't buy anything from vendors now because I need to be level 40! And even if I could get to level 40 I still need legendary marks which o can't get. [i]I understand that I didn't pay for the new stuff but atleast don't take away armour and weapons I had access to before[/i] Also no one gives a crap about the story missions! All we cared about was the endgame content! Destiny is the worst excuse for a game ever! Bungie should feel ashamed on what they created.
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Edited by Mars3099: 9/18/2015 1:39:40 AMyea but what ur missing is that they could have easily worked around this w/o taking content from us not to mention some stuff was straight up just taken out for NO reason like story mode difficulties and CONTROL (my fav game mode) and its the fact that they were on smaller scales that less ppl complained about WoW ect plus just cuz another game did it does not mean we should not complain when this game does it on a greater scale so whether it has or was "technically" taken out or not I dont care at this point I am just mad that they would do this in the 1st place its called The Taken King BUT in my mind it might as well be The Taken Content cuz that is how it feels cuz at the end of the day they could have easily worked around this issue but they didn't and every1 who did not buy the TTK (or TTC if u ask me) feels like they just payed $100 dollars for a demo and thats the POINT
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Edited by samwenchester: 9/18/2015 1:41:07 AMQuick question, does the, ib, trials, count as previous content that was taken away? What about the control mode that could be played by non dlc players all the way till the ttk released even if you didn't buy the first 2 dlc. And what about going on patrols and not being able to survive with enemies one shotting you because you can't raise your light to withstand the damage. On patrols in the base game you should be able to survive. Ps. I own ttk. They also don't get rewards from regular stiles anymore. Nothing good at least.
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Edited by BegFourMercy: 9/18/2015 1:47:29 AMhttp://kotaku.com/destiny-the-taken-king-leaves-old-players-behind-1731460036 "As it turns out, The Taken King doesn’t just add a ton of excellent new stuff to Bungie’s ambitious MMO-shooter—it also locks out much of the old content both in PVE and PVP."
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In fact I think you will find content has been cut from me and everybody else who don't have TTK as well as those who buy the TTK. At least those who buy the TTK get a replacement for the lost content already purchased with Eris offering new TTK content only. Those who don't buy TTK but bought TDB get no replacement but lose all crota based bounties. With the move to TTK content only its not the worst thing for those with TTK but irregardless it is a loss of content to everyone. With this move those of us who have paid for that content but having it removed in favour of things that is not accessible unless we give them more money is a kick in the face from Bungie. Especially being in the UK where prices are far higher than elsewhere in the world. Content has been removed!!! There is no denying that.
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TL;DR - Why get so upset about someone else's opinion? It has zero effect on your gameplay.
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It's called The "TAKEN" King for a reason... By the way, bought it, love it!
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When the next DLC will released, and TTK content will cut off why should we buy new expansions when we cant play old ones? This is totally absurd! Sry for grammar...