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originally posted in:Binary Star Cult
7/10/2015 8:52:48 PM
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No, I disagree, thats not evidence. Just a theory. Besides we gain super power on some armor, by killing minions of the darkness. This armor doesn't benefit you in PvP killing other guardians. There's your real evidence
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Edited by Wolvo22: 7/10/2015 10:15:06 PMI love how your reasoned arguments are tearing him apart lol. The shit you say makes more sense. Here's my thoughts, traveler is not evil or the darkness, why? Because it sacrificed itself for us, it stopped the vex turning all our planets into machines, it stuck with us throughout every dark day. The hive were performing rituals on a shard of it draining it's light. The vex worshiped the heart to stop the traveler from regenerating itself. So why would it, if it is evil or the darkness have its armies detriment it in so many ways? Answer, it's good, and the reason the darkness pursues it is because it wishes to stamp out the "[b]light[/b] of creation. Which the traveler effectively is, all it does is create.
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Everything you're saying has no proof. You simply state exactly what the Traveler, Ghosts, and Speaker tell you. You never find any actual evidence of this in the game. The evidence in this thread is developed by Grimoire cards, which are supposed to be the truth of the story put in clues. Game mechanics cannot be used as evidence either, because they have no implication on the story and are simply modified to give players the most possible entertainment.
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Grim cards are no proof either. It's speculation on the players part. The only thing that's true is what's in the game so far, if it changes fair enough. But until then I'm closer.
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The Grimoire cards contradict what you're told in the game by the Speaker. This theory is based upon the fact that the Speaker has lied to the guardians. The original story for Destiny (before the writers quit because of Activision) had the Speaker and Traveler be evil, and Bungie may consider resurrecting this storyline so Destiny will no longer be criticized for having a fundamentally disappointing story.
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Well exactly it's a fan bases theory, which is even less than what they tell you in the story. Plus I trust bill nighy :3
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Even though he always plays evil characters... lol
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Not [i]always[/i] lol
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Good points. I think it's funny when people twist the lore around. Makes good conversations
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Edited by Wolvo22: 7/10/2015 10:24:06 PMIt is quite entertaining
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Lemme try to convince you a bit better with more and actual evidence. Sometimes when you try to sneak up on fallen they scream The Darkness. If we were dark as well obviously The Traveler wouldn't just flat tell us "Hey go kill the good guys for me" it'd say it to make it seem like it is trying to get us to do the right thing.
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Still not evidence. Sometimes I get called a moron by complete morons themselves. That just sounds like pots calling kettles black to me. Grunts call Master Chief a demon also, does that make him a demon? No, he's a Savior to mankind, just a demon to their cause.
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True. Cannot argue with that. Except I do wanna bring up [b]One[/b]more thing. The Blade of Crota. If the sword is entirely dark than why do you use it so well and seemingly [b]better[/b] than knights themselves.
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I see the bold letters. Not sure what "one better" means. We are better because we are not an ai game mechanic.
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Just saying, your main argument was a game mechanic as well, stating that our level advantages not extending into PVP was proof that our "light" can't harm one another, but as you said, game mechanics can't be used as proof.
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Edited by Deebo416: 7/19/2015 2:44:55 PMI didn't say game mechanics couldn't be used as proof. In fact this whole response of yours seems like you need to reread my posts. I would actually argue that game mechanics are a lot more proof than conspiracy theories in the game's lore.
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True I can't really argue with that one either and to be honest I used bold letters for why not.
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Oh didn't catch that. Thanks for your insight guardian
