This is my 2nd comment on this thread. After 9 nightfalls post HoW drop I still have received zero E light from the activity. Also, NF drops in general continue to be abysmally ridiculous. I have only had one exotic drop from NF post release of HoW and it was a hunter helmet that I've had maxed out on my character since January. At least I could shard it and upgrade a weapon to 365. All of my other NF drops have been legendary weapons. Most of those (for some reason) have been the AR, Pest Control Matrix. This week, my teammates started roaring with laughter the first time one dropped from NF because they had seen me get so many in prior weeks. When we did our 2nd characters this week and it dropped for me again, their hilarity was uncontrollable. I must have offended RNGsus somehow ... I have not even attempted 34 PoE because all three of my characters are 32. I'm in the same boat as Edit 7: FatChubbE. I have at most 2-3 hours per night to play. In addition, I completely suck at PvP so Trials and Iron Banner are just NOT options for me to grind out E Light. There is another issue and it is one of priorities. I'm 38, an executive manager for the company I work for, and therefore often get interrupted mid-game by a phone call even late in the evening. Also, I love my wife and also want to spend time with her. I can't sit there and ignore her every other night and talk to strangers on my headset while running PoE. Imagine living with someone who sits on the couch talking on the phone constantly, but that person never talks to you. If I run multi-player (PvE or PvP) constantly the way I need to to grind E Light, then I am forced to ignore my gorgeous wife to do it. I can run bounties, etc solo and still have a meaningful conversation with her. Playing with a fireteam, that's just not possible. She didn't marry me to sit next to me on the couch while I talk with other people grinding for video game rewards day and night. It is also not fair for me to abandon a team when the CEO calls about something. But, Destiny is set up in such a way that I MUST do that in order to get the best gear and reach max level. In short, I purchased the Expansion Pass when I pre-ordered Destiny. That is the only reason I even have HoW. Had I not made that pre-order I would have seen all of the reviews and forum comments and passed on HoW. Reading forum posts and other public reaction forces me to conclude that there are many others in the same boat. This weekend is it for me. If I can not advance my characters further when I run 28 and 32 PoE on my three characters, I'll be done. No way I will purchase the next DLC unless the reviews are 5-star. The grind has finally killed my desire to keep playing.