And not forgetting the maps! Valhalla, enough said. But each version of halo had a well balanced pvp, they controlled the balance right up to reach. With more variables the harder it is to balance everything. In halo everyone had their preferred options, we had choice. I used to love taking on a warthog, I'd stalk them, run straight at them, jump and put a sticky on the drivers head to blind them and get a nice double kill. The big danger is that we remember the whole evolution of the halo series. Destiny hasn't even been out a year yet so bungie have a short period to balance things out. Not even to mention the different gaming generations and their own set of needd and demands. There's roughly three generations of gamers to satisfy. I think they'll get there and I'm looking forward to 1.5:Comet. There'll prob be a counter thorn gun and an exotic heavy with more dps than the ghally.