[u]It is like this:[/u] This game is more difficult than others in regards to dealing with multiple enemies at once. There are only a handful of guns that can help you mitigate the amount of threats that you are facing. If you are not using these guns, you are not handling every situation to the maximum ability that you can. So why would you NOT use the thorn/TLW/Hawkmoon/Red Death(RIP suros)? Hipsters and try hards can run around all day and talk about how amazing they are because they don't use OP weapons. At the end of the day, if there was actually a competitive side of destiny, those same players would get destroyed be equal level opponents, using the better guns.