Lol I'm sorry if more then a few people are using the thorn why would I limit myself? And who says I don't need a crutch? I never once said I was a good PvP player lol so I use it to put myself on even playing field, so did you enjoy looking up my game history to just be a douche? Are you really that bored? [spoiler]and about last word and vex I would rather play a team using those instead of thorn lol[/spoiler]