Yes. I mean, if I really want to win, why not use the best weapon in crucible. Occasionally I use the hawkmoon (larger maps) but that is not even an option for xbox players. Red death is ok but gets outgunned by all the exotic handcannons. Vex accuracy is not the best and the range is not good either. Suros is long forgotten. My only other loadout that seems to be able to counter thorn is my old red hand IX with hammer forged and a bunch of reload perks on it alongside my trusty plan c. Even then, I often lose do to range. The thorn just has a little bit more range that my red hand cannot do. maybe when I get my queen breakers bow things will be different.