Ok... 1) That spreadsheet shows the fastest possible TTK for each weapon. It means firing at the maximum RoF without missing headshots and you have to be within the range (not too far that the dmg drop-off will affect the weapon) 2) Not everyone can get 2 perfect headshots in a row without missing ALL OF THE TIME. 3) Radiant Dance Machines + MIDA. I find myself often beating Thorn users with this loadout. It's probably because a lot of them can't land multiple shots in a row on me, just as I mentioned in #2. 3) Why nerf? It was fine until the auto nerf. Bring back auto rifles and people will use Suros again. That should stop all these Thorn threads. Let's just hope others wont cry about Suros. 4) THE RAM!!!