Idk man. I use thorn bc it's a badass gun, but I'll switch it up and use Mida, TLW, or Suros sometimes because I like them. I went a couple games yesterday without ever seeing a thorn. Hawkmoon and Suros were my cryptonite. You just have to be aware of your enemies, keep cover and stay with your team. You can spot a thorn user pretty easy and take them out while they're busy with a teammate.