Thorn "much better than any gun?" Sorry, but that is stupid. It isn't hard to outgun somebody using thorn. It isn't even the best handcannon >.> is thorn a little op? Sure. Really it shoots too fast for what it does. Does it have a little too much range? Sure. Really thorn-snipers are a bunch of twats. Do these stats make it "much better than any gun" in PvP? -blam!- no. Edit: oh, I'm sorry you didn't say "any gun" it was much better than "every single gun" "Every single gun"