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Edited by Mtthulhu: 6/4/2015 12:17:44 PM
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Thorn "much better than any gun?" Sorry, but that is stupid. It isn't hard to outgun somebody using thorn. It isn't even the best handcannon >.> is thorn a little op? Sure. Really it shoots too fast for what it does. Does it have a little too much range? Sure. Really thorn-snipers are a bunch of twats. Do these stats make it "much better than any gun" in PvP? -blam!- no. Edit: oh, I'm sorry you didn't say "any gun" it was much better than "every single gun" "Every single gun"
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  • They do https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L7FV9l4hXo2tHD3XlFUp854XvJIwTKFIPvASLduPPS4/htmlview?pli=1 It's ttk is around 1/3 the average

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  • 1/3 is not the average. It's the ttk for the perfect circumstances and perfect aim. It's the TTK for getting headshots in a row at its maximum possible fire rate and within its range. Who can do that? Not that many people.

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  • An average which includes an entire broken class of weapons. Thorns damage and time to kill and right and proper for its weapon class. It's a Hand Cannon. That's what Hand Cannons are all about. If anything needs changed on Thorn it's the range, and possibly the rate of fire. It even seems like it would shoot slower, judging by how it looks and handles in game. But most people who whine about Thorn are just annoyed by it, it's an annoying weapon. The dot and screen effects make it really noticeable. Are there a stupid amount of people using Thorn? YES. But not because it's better than most weapons, just because it's perceived to be. A lot of people use Thorn in maps where it makes no sense because they think it's a completely OP gun. And then I shoot them with my MIDA and call it a day

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  • Sorry, man. Even you should be able to see from that spreadsheet that Thorn is miles ahead of almost all other weapons in the game.

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