Yeah. I just talking about pvp. It's really frustrating when they -blam!- things for pve because of pve. And I think u only have to have 0.4 kd with void weapons for thorn so it's not that hard
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I've almost completed my second Thorn bounty - just Xylor to go. But apart for the bounty for 15 handcannon kills in the Crucible - I'm a Red Death man myself.