I think a poll should be taken on the amount of polls with the the subject of: Thorn is too OP Thorn Bounty is too hard For every poll bleating about the difficulty of the PvP portion of the Thorn Bounty - there's six people using it in a 12 person match. I'm genuinely surprised that there are so many people using it when there's so many people decrying the difficulty of the bounty itself. The Thorn is not the problem with PvP, but the instance on linking PvE with PvP is. If PvP had scaled and balanced weapons that were for PvP only - half the forum topics wouldn't exist. People who complain about a weapon in PvP - Bungie takes action and weapon is neutered. Those who play PvE with the now neutered weapon (I. E Auto Rifle) say "what the firetruck, this thing is now useless" - *crickets chirping*