Are you dumb lol. Hawkmoon would still be a 3 head shot kill and I would use it every day over any legendary hand cannon. If all exotic perks were deactivated in crucible it would be tlw followed by a close hawkmoon then thorn falling way behind
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in essence they become limited by their stats and 3 shots is better than one or two all the time most people perk their hand cannons to be a three shot anyway its not such a crazy idea
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Edited by Draconborn: 6/4/2015 11:11:02 AMLol are you stupid? I have 3 other legendary hand cannons with max stability that three headshot. I wouldn't use Hawkmoon if it was also three shot, it would take up an exotic slot. This legendary will be much better than a Hawkmoon with no special perks. Are you really that bad that you don't have a three shot legendary? Your logic is retarded.
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exactally my point of crucible and deactivation of exotic perk as you said [quote] I have 3 other legendary hand cannons with max stability that three headshot. I wouldn't use Hawkmoon if it was also three shot, it would take up an exotic slot[/quote] funny most people choose exotics only because they kill faster
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Although I like using Legendaries much better than Exotics, exotics are called exotic for a reason. They are supposed to be OP. Maybe not as terrifying as 2 shot kill Damage Over Time, but just better than a normal Legendary.
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in a PVE setting i can definitely agree with this as the perks help defeat higher leveled enemies faster but i cannot see any fair purpose as to why they are needed in crucible.
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To be its role as an exotic in crucible.
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I have 3 dumbass my point is if you take out all exotic perks in crucible theirs no point in using an exotic in the first place. Hawkmoon feels better than any other exotic hand cannon and better than most legendaries. You can't take out exotic perks and not take them out on legendaries that's unbalanced.
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the point of crucible is to be fair and to be honest most handcannons 3 shot anyway, unless their a little low in the impact department but even so exotics are only picked over legendary's for their two shot potential and time to kill
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Then ban all exotics from pvp by your logic lol.
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you can still use armor to your advantage, and i think we can agree warlocks are covered for that. however exotic weapons lose their special perks that are mainly supposed to be effective against aliens. what you describe is not what i am telling people will cry about weapons till the cows come how but its a simple deactivation of something that can go a long way, example is thorn most people use the peekaboo method when using it to get more damage out of burn or fire and forget kills to combat this action turn burn off forcing players to get their kills from the bullet rather than burn. another example would be hawkmoon most people like the gun because of its 1 and 2 shot potential the statistics of getting a 2 shot is 81% chance of happening thats crazy! people dont tend to notice it either mainly because people just die with ease in front of them eliminating skill altogether. the last word may be one of the harder weapons to use but its still inherently broken the perks make up for what the gun lack in impact range and stability, the weapon itself is not even all that exotic with out its namesake.
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So you're kind of proving my point, I don't why you're arguing but just proving my point.
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Not really that's like saying exotics should be on the same class as legendaries or better argument we should all be using the same guns in pvp just choose a scout ar pulse or handcannon?
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You are going completely off the road... What tf are you even talking about now? This was not the original argument.
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You said deactivate exotic perks then what's the point of having them that makes them exotics over legendaries last word would be a shit weapons red death know increased damage and health regen. Vex no bonus damage after kills. Hard light no stagger monte Carlo no increased super energy. That's what makes the guns exotics vs any other legendary
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Goddamn you're stupid Did you even read what I said?
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I was talking to the op that I posted to my bad.
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Lol, your stupidity is proven. It's ok :)
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Cause I'm so stupid right get -blam!-ed