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6/4/2015 5:44:11 AM
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Thorn is actually not that great imo.
Pros:
It excels at mid-medium long range combat.
Due to the extreme amount of aim assist in game it's an easy to use weapon.
Ammo isn't an issue, can burn ammo for final round in trials.
Dot effect to keep shields down to allow aggressive gameplay or follow up grenades.
Has good stats.
Probably some other stuff, I don't know.
Cons:
Tlw has a faster ttk and will beat thorn at close-medium range encounters. Long range is more dependant on user skill.
Shotguns will kill in cqc.
Snipers will kill in long range.
Somewhat irrelevant, but is apparently difficult to obtain? (Arguably a pro, idc)
Fusion rifles can beat it at mid range.
Tlw is better for aggressive play because it will kill faster instead of relying on dot, it just kills.
These are my thoughts on thorn. I think thorn is irrelevant. I use last word and thorn users will generally lose to me in a 1v1 encounter. If you let a thorn user play his medium range game, then it'll be difficult. Put some distance between you and them or get in close and make them panic. They'll either switch to secondaries or die.
So, I don't think thorn really needs a nerf. Maybe dot can be shorter but stronger, but destiny is a slightly slow paced game so it fits.
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Yep idk im doing just fine with my tlw vs most thorn users
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Edited by scuzzgolem: 6/4/2015 6:06:20 AMIs comparing Thorn to another completely OP weapon really a good baseline?
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[quote]Is comparing Thorn to another completely OP weapon really a good baseline?[/quote]
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Yes. Everything else is irrelevant. ...kinda. You get the point, only a few guns are practical in.. umm.. "high level play?"
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I get the point but it should not be that way. You get my point?
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We get all the points. Let's turn them in for prizes
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To me thorn is fine because of what you stated there are guns that keep it in check if used correctly. Like red death in my experience, I can get a second shot out of red death about the same time thorn does or maybe 2sec after thorn fires it's second shot now if both thorn shots where headshots the dot will kill me but i used red death correctly where both shots has the third shot from both bursts land on the head it should be a kill and red deaths healing perk will save me from the dot of thorn but again this is my experience. Just seems people don't know how or just aren't good enough to counter it
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I think people need better fundamentals. Pick your encounters carefully. Learn how to safely approach your enemies. Have an escape route. check your radar. Stuff like that
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Edited by ExelArts: 6/4/2015 6:17:16 AMYes this Exactly!, personally I think if they removed the last nerf on the auto rifles thorn would be used less, the third auto rifle nerf was unjustified and had a high rise of red death(because of the buff) and thorns immediately after the nerf
