Honestly (and this may come as a shocker) I don't really like the thorn that much. Not in the way that uhh this gun should be nurfed but I don't see the appeal of it (I am trying to be reasonable). I have it maxed out and while its good I would much rather use TLW or Red death. I would like to think I am a good PvP player and have no problem out gunning to thorn. I do think it is annoying when more then one person is shooting me with it at once. I think the DoT should be lowered to 3 or 5 and that is shouldn't last as long