Apparently it's rare enough to drive most of the PvE fans into PvP territory. The only thing stopping me from completely agreeing with them is finding our where I stand in particular given a couple weeks of snearing my face against this brick wall of a grindfest.
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I'm totally a PvE player, updated guns are fine and all but 34 is given away, grind fest was back in the day of just the VoG when you actually had to work yer pooter off just to hit 30