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Edited by Ruin Tree: 11/23/2015 8:24:26 PM
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The Books of Sorrow

The first five of at least seven Books of Sorrow are listed below, thanks to Calcified Fragments. [b]Book 1[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154541051/0/0]Fundament[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153756958/0/0]Predators[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153927850/0/0]The Hateful Verse[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153928380/0/0]The Oath[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153939877/0/0]Syzygy[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/153975521/0/0]Needle and Worm[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154022503/0/0]Sisters[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154152699/0/0]The Dive[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154153036/0/0]Leviathan[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154153351/0/0]The Bargain[/url] [b]Book 2[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154302634/0/0]Immortals[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154302786/0/0]Conquerers[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154302924/0/0]Out of the Deep[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154303201/0/0]Into the Sky[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154303405/0/0]52 and One[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154303848/0/0]Born as Prey[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154304667/0/0]The Sword Logic[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154305032/0/0]The Weakness Verse[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154305487/0/0]Leviathan Rises[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154306016/0/0]Crusaders[/url] [b]Book 3[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154541420/0/0]Hive[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154541651/0/0]An Incision[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154541862/0/0]The High War[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154542172/0/0]Fire Without Fuel[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154542423/0/0]THE SCREAM[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154542667/0/0]Dictata ir Dakaua[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154543095/0/0]Star by Star by Star[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154543330/0/0]Eat the Sky[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154543504/0/0]King of Shapes[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154543727/0/0]Carved in Ruin[/url] [b]Book 4[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154768246/0/0]A Golden Amputation[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154768389/0/0]Battle Made Waves[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154768630/0/0]Majestic. Majestic.[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154769063/0/0]When Do Monsters Have Dreams[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154769455/0/0]More Beautiful to Know[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154769932/0/0]This Love is War[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154770139/0/0]Eater of Hope[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154770412/0/0]Shapes : Points[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154770704/0/0]The Partition of Death[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154771102/0/0]Open Your Eye : Go Into It[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154771431/0/0]An Emperor for All Outcomes[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/154771784/0/0]Dreadnaught[/url] [b]Book 5[/b] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155024361/0/0]<>|<>|<>[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155024756/0/0]End of Failed Timeline[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155025051/0/0]Strict Proof Eternal[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155026008/0/0]I'd Shut Them All In Cells[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155026401/0/0]The Gift Mast[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155026718/0/0]Apocalypse Refrains[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155027214/0/0]Aiat, Aiat, Aiat, Aiat, Aiat[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155027818/0/0]Forever and a Blade[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155028220/0/0]Wormfood[/url] [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/155028819/0/0]I'll Make Sure[/url] This is simply a list of the Verses, and it does not explain any meanings. It is all up to you. Enjoy!

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    • I was walking by Eris one time and she legit said " oryx is not dead" so yea... New raid: kings fall 2 coming in 2017

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      • Can I pose a theory? Could it be that the Vex plan is to replicate a Hive God? I just read up some Grimoire and it looked like basically, Oryx told Quria that he would need thousands of systems worth of power to replicate him, and after that Quria sent all that info, plus everything he knew of Oryx, to the higher Vex Minds. Maybe the Vex need all those machine planets so they can form their own version of a Hive God based on that information, using the Black Gardens heart as a supplement for Oryx's worm, and the Sol Progeny as their link to it?

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          • Edited by The Whartmaster: 10/15/2015 12:21:21 AM
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                    • So the darkness that is happening upon the earth is what they call "the deep" in those books and with in that deep is the leviathen wheihc means the leviathen may be chilling just ionside our solar system?

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                      • Edited by TeslaDoc: 10/1/2015 3:41:19 PM
                        You know what worries me? 1. Oryx can come back to life in any plane of existence with the aid of his worm. 2. Oryx is made for war and can never stop fighting. 3. Oryx is immortal if he doesn't meet the true death. 4. Oryx can use the fundamental forces of the universe (magic) to get stuff done. 5. Oryx functions at the bidding of forces outside his control (his worm). 6. Worms make Oryx a slave to the primordial forces of the universe. In this case, the Darkness. Here is the freaky part: 1. Guardians can come back to life in any plane of existence with the aid of their ghosts. 2. Guardians are made for war and never stop fighting. 3. Guardians are immortal if they don't meet the true death. 4. Guardians can use the fundamental forces of the universe (magic) to get stuff done. 5. Guardians function at the bidding of forces outside their control (the Speaker). 6. Ghosts make Guardians slaves to the primordial forces of the universe. In this case, the Light. I figure that we are someone's idea of fighting fire with fire.

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                        • So Oryx, the destroyer of hundreds of worlds destroyer of a galactic empire, who killed one of the five worm gods, who spoke directly to the darkness, who even beat the vex, got his ass kicked twice by a few guardians? Not to mention the cabal nearly blew up his throne world, the dreadnought at one point. That jus makes me feel all powerful, a more afraid of the cabal.

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                            • Edited by JSeery720: 9/30/2015 11:23:32 PM
                              The worms are the darkness, ancient enemy of the traveler. This starts on the fundament, where the worms grant the hive eternal life in exchange for "food". After the hive become immortal, the worms motivate them to take to the moons and kill the traveler. They try to kill it, but it flees and bestows a golden age on a different race, until the hive arrive, then it runs away if the race isnt able to defend the traveler. This cycle repeats. Eventually, the traveler reaches the eliksni AKA the fallen(this is based off of HoW grimoire) But for whatever reason, it leaves prior to the fallen being wiped out by the hive ( im not sure if the fallen even come into contact with the hive) this causes the eliksni to follow the traveler to seek revenge on it for abandoning their race. Sometime after the eliksni encounter, the traveler reaches earth, and starts a golden age. Something goes wrong, however, in fact, three things go wrong. Crota and his minions, the vex, and the fallen arrive. Starting with Crota and the Vex; Crota's 2 sisters ir anuk and ir halak were experimenting with wounds (hive portals) in oryx's throne world and they were trying to make themselves harder to kill by dying in this wound. Seeing that oryx was pleased by this, and told how by savathun, oryx's cunning sister, crota cut a wound in the throne world and by doing this, he let the vex in. This was savathun's will, not crota's, keep that in mind. After eradicating the vex from the throne world with his 2 sisters, oryx saw what had transpired and he says, "come back victorious or die forgotten" and proceeds to cast Crota into a vex portal. Crota proceeds to battle through history (we do not know where or when exactly) and becomes a "legendary demon". Through his journeys, he resents oryx for doing this to him, but he understands it with time. Crota begins setting up shrines to his father, respecting him for what he did. Eventually, crota's hive end up in our solar system. The eliksni arrive and land on earth, and begin to prepare an attack on the traveler. The vex have been hunting the traveler, too, this whole time, and they set up on venus kinda when the collapse starts, but also kinda before humanity exists. It's weird. This is where the collapse begins. Crota remembers his fathers motives against the traveler, and tries to help him, he does this by seeding earth with hive. The hive and the eliksni both mount an attack on the traveler, thus crippling it. In the aftermath of this, the fallen attack the city in the battles six fronts and twilight gap. Shortly after this, you come into play, commencing the end of the darkness. Now, the worms are not actually the darkness, but they have the closest connection to it. The darkness is actually the thing they refer to as the deep. From what we know, the deep is not a race, but it is a place/single entity, a kind of anti traveler, bent on tricking things into fighting for it, just as our good traveler does. The difference between them is that the deep does its work by physically influencing races to work for it. The worms are kind of the ghosts of the deep. Our traveler does its work by mentally influencing us to advance ourselves in such a way so that we can protect it. This is why ghosts exist outside of our bodies, and worms exist inside of hosts. At least thats what i think. If you see any flaws, write a polite message in my replies, i will most certainly respond, oh reader mine. Eyyy 69 replies ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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