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This is why I put my 2 cents in about a council. We HAVE a council. We have selected members to be admins. We have a hierarchy in place. This is NOT a democracy, although all voices are heard and considered. This is a clan with elders (admins) and a chief (founder). I felt i had to post on the "poll" about a council. What I read is akin to mutiny. If you don't want to sail under Whizdumb's flag, then get the -blam!- off the ship and form your own. Once you do, you'll realize that the way Bungie has set up this clan system, this is how it works. You don't vote on a leader, you have a leader, and in this case, one that busts her ass for the clan. If you feel you'd like to be an admin, then speak up! If you feel someone should not be an admin, you can speak up about that too. Your clan leader is Whizdumb, either show her some human decency and respect, or get the -blam!- out and start your own clan. This should not even be an issue as this involved a NON-CLANMEMBER abusing and harassing Whiz via messages. This right there breaks Microsoft's Terms of Service for Xbox Live, and should not have to be put up with by anyone. Absolutely NO ACTION was taken against any clan members, and any who left decided to do so by their own accord. I'm adding my voice that this matter be officially closed, and everyone move the -blam!- on.