originally posted in:Secular Sevens
Everyone belongs to a group, so under anyone's interpretation fascism can benefit them granted their group is at the top. Let's consider Judaism and Zionism. A society where collective Jewish wealth leaves Jews at the top, Zions one level down, and everyone else at the bottom which would create class warfare and thus stimulate the economy, while Jews and Zions will reap the benefits.
It's not unethical. You only need the care about the people around you. It is a lie to say that you care about all the people in the world because you just don't know them. And they certainly don't care anymore for you. This is what communism relies upon for social order, but it will fall apart as soon as the pressure is relieved.
In full, focusing on equality for every group within the human race would only trim down on the resources and power your group could seize for their own. So what redeems communism from its inevitable short standing with Zion fascism?
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Communism is the idea that we are all equal. Fascism is the idea that some are more equal than others.
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There isn't one
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Because Russia beat Germany in WW2.
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Maybe the lack of an utterly oppressive and dictatorial government?
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OP I am assuming you are a moral nihilist.. am I right?
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Ew Zionism *gags and leaves thread
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Communism is more than just a political ideology, in order to understand the political part you must also understand the moral and ethical part of communism. Every single thing we have, besides food, family, clothes, and shelter, is unneeded, in capitalism and fascism however, they inevitably will become the things our lives revolve around. The system (in fascism and capitalism) relies on us obtaining more and more superficial materialistic objects, thus by fueling our desire to acquire for [i]ourselves[/i] , for [i]ourselves[/i] to gain social status, it also fuels our greed and arrogance. Assuming one is not a moral nihilist, most people generally agree that greed and arrogance are undesirable traits, and lead to many other evils. Communism advocates for the elimination of unneeded things, at least for them to not be the main focus of our lives, and thus helps to reduce greed and arrogance in a society, and in a true communist state, empathy will be the ruling trait, while in true fascism it will be greed.
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Edited by DeclinedA01: 12/17/2013 7:40:46 PMSocialism inevitably leads to totalitarianism. The [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] were socialists. (National Socialist Party, can't say the word). Any system in which property is in the hands of the state will involve some people making arbitrary decisions on who get (or doesn't get) what. To get a better understanding on this subject I highly suggest reading [i]The Road To Serfdom[/i] by F.A. Hayek.
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Edited by Pfhortnite: 12/17/2013 7:39:04 PMLiterally the only good thing about either one of them.
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Communism isn't the answer. There is no best government option. They all have flaws, they all will not work in every way that is best for people.
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Resource based economy beats all
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Communism has easily killed the most people.
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Apparently any organized crime syndicate can eventually run the place, now that's mobile economic ability in a nutshell.
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Well.. I don't really see any... Neither is a good system but I'd say communism is by far a worse one. AND before flaming at me, I'm talking about the hypothetical forms, not the [url=http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] facism or the CCCP communism.
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With communism you get to use a cool hammer and sickle logo.
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Well, communism has an edge in cool propaganda posters.
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Apples to Cars. It doesn't work.
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Because all of history is simply the struggle between the classes. It will eventually end in the elimination of all social classes. You can either help, or got to the dustbin of history.
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A perfect communism would, in theory, be a perfect society. It's just not humanly possible to achieve it.
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Well comparing communism to fascism is essentially comparing an economic philosophy to a political philosophy... Does not compute.
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Edited by Foxy: 12/1/2013 11:24:52 PM[quote]while Jews and Zions will [i][u]reek[/u][/i] the benefits.[/quote] You ain't reekin mah benifits nigg[i]a[/i]h!
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Making thread public for attention. inb4 idiot capitalist plebs