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Edited by GrandmasterNinja:
2/1/2013 12:46:35 PM
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Why do people think schools should teach you everything?
I've been noticing people are wanting schools to talk about sexuality* within schools. But why the hell do you want that? Should schools be the one teaching kids to accept one another for who we are, or is it the parent's responsibility to do this? We learn about sex one way or another, be it through sex-ed in school, or discovering the internet lol. Do you think this is a necessity, a value that one really needs to learn? Why don't we teach kids how to live in the god damn wilds, make things, cook food, get fit.
If a school is supposed to be a place to get set for the world, then we'd never leave it. A school is made so that a citizen of the country can be a productive one that raises the GDP of the country.
*I meant sexuality as in homo, hetero, bi, lesbian, trans. There is nothing wrong with sex-ed, I just don't think schools need to tell students about the above terms, sex is sex no matter the sexual orientation.
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My best necrobump yet.
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1 ReplyBecause modern educational systems in the U.S. are totally prepping students for the real world in other ways. Completely. I'm totally not being sarcastic at all here.
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In matters of sex and sexual orientation it would be best to teach the kids in an unbiased way. If the parents teach them about the homo's, bi's, trans' and all that, they might have a negative opinion about them and pass it on. Which is bad. I don't want anyone teaching anybody that homosexuality is a curse or that bisexuality is a disease. Schools are made to teach us insofar that we will be able to survive and learn on our own without the aid of the school system.
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They should teach you what you need to survive, that should include sexuality, communication, economics, cooking and other useful things that i don't feel like listing.
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It's probably best that they do.
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I think that the amount of teen pregnancies should speak for itself...
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[quote] *I meant sexuality as in homo, hetero, bi, lesbian, trans. There is nothing wrong with sex-ed, I just don't think schools need to tell students about the above terms, sex is sex no matter the sexual orientation.[/quote] Um... sex does change depending on the sexual orientation. Do I really need to explain this more? Schools can teach students the differences between these terms, they can teach students to be tolerant of people with different sexualities (even if some students might not approve of them). Sweeping things under the rug because they make us uncomfortable is not the way to go.
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2 Replies[quote]A school is made so that a citizen of the country can be a productive one that raises the GDP of the country.[/quote] I nearly vomited. That is a horrible sentiment.
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15 Repliesif you think every child needs to know about and respect all the various brands of sexuality, you can't rely on the parents. parents will teach their kids their values, so if they think x sexuality should be punishable by death then the kid will learn that. school is the only way to ensure children are taught something.
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11 RepliesBecause schools are about education. Sexual education is VERY important, and something that parents don't always know how to teach is properly. So many parents just teach abstinence, which is NOT a form of sexual education. Look at states like Texas that teach abstinence-only sex ed; they have one of the highest teen pregnancies in the country.
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1 ReplyDo schools talk about heterosexuality? Or do they merely talk about natural reproduction and how to do it safe? There was never an emphasis on straight is great, gay no way.
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3 RepliesI don't know anyone who thinks schools should teach everything. K-12 is designed to provide general education, and sex ed definitely belongs in that.
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4 RepliesEdited by CrazzySnipe55: 2/1/2013 12:51:13 AMI think of High Schools as a way to prepare kids for the real world, or at least as much as they need for college. My school teaches a personal finance class, a slew of business classes, an independent living class, college/career success skills, law classes, painting, drawing, photography, basic foods courses, and a plethora of other electives and classes that are not in the basic HEMS core courses (I just made that up: History, English, Math, Science. Pretty neat, huh?). What is wrong with discussing sexuality? I do it in my English class and I guarantee it comes up in an AP Psych course at one point or another. You act like the discussion of sexuality would be otherwise taking away from a student's precious time that they'd be spending hard at work studying and enriching their minds, when in reality it could be 15-30 minutes taken away from doing busy-work or a pointless worksheet that reiterates the same thing they've been learning all year and isn't challenging at all. So, tell me your exact argument against discussing sexuality in school, because that can't honestly be it.
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17 RepliesBecause a lot of parents do a bad job of teaching their kids about what's actually a really important subject. People don't need to know how to live in the wild - they do need to know how to screw.
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It should be taught in schools, so when they get down to business they do it in the way that doesn't make babies and doesn't spread disease. You teach it to them so they can be responsible. If they are uninformed and do what feels good without thinking, that is when disease and unplanned babies happen. Educating them about this is good.
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People (parents) don't have time for their kids due to job/hobbies (a.k.a kids are not that important for them) or they just find them annoying, thus they won't teach them anything or even interact with them in a fitting manner. That's why they want to push the parenting onto other people, like teachers. Yay.
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Edited by SweetTRIX: 1/31/2013 11:12:01 PMSchools are for teaching academics, which are to be taught by teachers based on the schools curriculum. Morality has no curriculum, unless you are talking about a religious institution. Thus, teachers should not be responsible/aren't being paid to teach the children morals. It doesn't matter what the parents are or are not doing, teachers should only be expected to do what they are paid to do, they are not there to be surrogate parents, even though that is what sometimes happens.
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Schools should teach just basic education in the different subjects they teach. i think you should learn life lessons and morals and stuff you don't learn in school from your parents.
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Kids go to school to learn. It could be about anything, since K-12 is just a phase in a person's life where they can find out who and what they want to be.
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Edited by Mitochondrion: 1/31/2013 9:47:05 PMBecause it's called a [i]school[/i] and it's meant to provide an [i]education[/i]? Also, most of the crap you learn in school is -blam!-ing useless shit anyway.
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20 Replies[quote]Should schools be the one teaching kids to accept one another for who we are, or is it the parent's responsibility to do this? [/quote] It's the parent's responsibility, but they often fail at doing their job. Therefore, the schools must come in to make sure that message gets through to kids. [quote]Why don't we teach kids how to live in the god damn wilds[/quote] Because that's -blam!-ing stupid. School need to reinvigorate their technical school programs, STEM courses, and Social Studies curriculum. Get rid of P.E., music, art, and cooking requirements. They're all idiotic wastes of my time, to be frank.
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I totally agree with this.
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Parents quit being parents and now the school system feels they need to step in. There's even an article in the paper today about one state considering teaching children about guns in school. Damn shame.
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The problem is that the schools used to do this sort of thing, then came the education reform acts that outright -blam!-ed schools forcing them to teach to a test, never teach anything that is actually relevant to this generations needs and or career interests. That's the true problem with schools. When the federal government revokes no child left behind, and then allows people to actually learn, then we can discuss the merits of what schools should teach with regards to social acceptance and sexuality.
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I think there's a fine line between teaching the [i]information[/i] about sex, and teaching about the [i]morality[/i] of it. I don't think it's a school's job to teach morals, but I totally understand teaching informative stuff about it in sex-ed, like about the risks involved and how to use various forms of protection.
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accually i agree with you. the world in a couple 100 years could turn into the hunger games.although that is highly unlikley if they run out of money, become homeless or whatever, they need to know how to survive.
