originally posted in:Sapphire
Russia officially announced that they would arm the Syrian regime with missiles earlier today. In return, Israel declared that they would take "action" in the event that Russia does in fact arm Syria with missiles. In other words, Israel is threatening to shoot Russia's missile shipment into the ocean (which they claim is already on its way to Syria).
I know enough about international politics to not overreact to this kind of stuff, but in a sense this situation is different. Israel is well known to preemptively strike an enemy if they feel threatened, and especially in times of war (such as their attacks in Syria). They're an aggressive country and they usually don't make unfulfilled threats. Ivan on the other hand is the kind of country that would retaliate on such a strike. If Israel were to attack this shipment (and with Israel's reputation in mind, it could happen), Russia will certainly strike back. And of course this would force the U.S. to enter such a conflict including all of it's NATO allies.
So I'm just going to hope that Israel is having a good day, and they don't feel like starting WWIII. Thoughts?
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>Russia arms Syria with missiles >Israel's threatening world peace k
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How is Israel at fault here? Russia is attempting to arm their enemies, and Israel wants to prevent that. I can't say I blame them. I think that blaming Israel for everything is the new cool thing to do, and everyone is buying in.
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Israel is like a hornets nest, its too aggressive to allow to live, we must destroy it, also Assad is not the cruel dictator that the BBC and Fox make him out to be, hes leagues better that the jihadi rebels that america, israel and britain are funding.
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Good. I hope Russia does fight back if Israel strikes because someone needs to put them in their place. Israel shouldn't even be there in the first place, but they sure as shit don't do anything to try ease tensions in the area.
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If I was in charge I would let Russia roflstomp them.
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Israel [i]is[/i] war.
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Edited by Pfhortnite: 5/29/2013 12:59:03 AMEach and every day I grow to dislike Israel even more than the past. Give back West Bank and Gaza Strip! Also, I don't agree with the Russians arming Basser al-Assad. I hoped they were above that.
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Shouldn't they be grateful we gave them a a piece of land to rebuild themselves upon after Hitler?
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Lets hope that the Zionist occupied land will be bombed to high hell :)
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[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/30/bashar-assad-syria-president-air-defense-missiles_n_3357349.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003]Bashar Assad: First Shipment Of Air Defense Missiles Have Arrived From Russia - Al-Manar TV[/url]
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World Peace 2013 Pick one.
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Edited by SonOfTheShire: 5/29/2013 1:58:22 AMThat title can be read in two ways, one of which is hilarious.
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*has state next to it which has high risk of becoming a highly unstable, Islamist state* *is concerned that they could be on receiving end of an attack* They're threatening world peace y'all!
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Russia won't do anything as long as no Russians are killed. They're just selling arms to a paying customer, a destroyed shipment means another sale. Israel will probably destroy the shipment when it's out of Russian hands.
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Flawless logic. Input: --> Russia announces provision of arms to a morally questionable regime. <Thought process> Output: --> ISRAEL Threatens world peace!!!
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Edited by Uncle Putin: 5/29/2013 3:39:04 AMI'm pretty sure that if Russia started arming Cuba with missiles that we would not be okay with it. I don't see the problem with this.
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Edited by Dragon029: 5/29/2013 9:46:07 AMWhilst it is a ridiculous claim by Israel, they do have an important point. The S-300 is very advanced technology, coming only really second to it's new derivative, the S-400. While Syria arguably has the right to defend itself against Israeli airstrikes, it definitely does not need these systems. More than that, if you throw such systems into such an unstable nation, they're going to wind up in the hands of the worst imaginable groups. From there, they'll likely be sold to neighbouring nations for more immediately useful tech; the technology would likely wind up in the hands of Iran, militant groups, etc. The only real positive to selling them to Syria is that it means that systems like the F-35 and Next Generation Bomber, etc will be justified.
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You don't mess with a Russian...that is all.
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Meh. The Syrian conflict literally has no good side, except the civilians. They suffer the most, unfortunately.
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That's a lot of ifs and buts
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My only hope is that Israel is wiped off the face of the Earth before they can fall back on the Samson plan.
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-blam!- Israel and -blam!- Syria, just nuke both of the cancerous tumors and get it the -blam!- over with before they start trying to pick a fight with the rest of the world.
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Edited by Diplomat: 5/29/2013 1:58:22 AM[quote]Russia officially announced that they would arm the Syrian regime with missiles earlier today. In return, Israel declared that they would take "action" in the event that Russia does in fact arm Syria with missiles.[/quote] Yes, the S-300 missile system is considered to be one of the best in the world, capable of shooting down targets from 125 miles away. Giving these systems to the Syrians, and risking it falling into the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah, will result in the current distribution of power being threatened. This in turn undermines Israeli national security, which banks on the status quo being maintained. Of course, it also threatens the national securities of every nation in the region and even countries around the world. To list a few: America (we don't want A.Q. syndicates to gain even more firepower), Iraq (yeah, those anti-government insurgents and terrorists can now establish no fly zones!), Mali (no more air support from France!), Egypt (now the insurgents in the Sinai can further solidify their positions), etc. [quote]In other words, Israel is threatening to shoot Russia's missile shipment into the ocean (which they claim is already on its way to Syria).[/quote] There never specifically said they'd target Russian ships, actually. The position of Israel has always been that if they believe weapons capable of shifting the balance of power are falling into the hands of terrorist organizations, they will pre-emptively strike in order to prevent such transactions from occurring. Most likely, they'll target the missiles when they are en route to their destination via convoy. You know, like they did last time. [quote]I know enough about international politics to not overreact to this kind of stuff, but in a sense this situation is different.[/quote] With all due respect, you just said that these *possible* Israeli strikes could spark World War Three. I don't think you know much about international relations. [quote]And of course this would force the U.S. to enter such a conflict including all of it's NATO allies.[/quote] Israel isn't apart of NATO, so no NATO ally would be obligated to assist in war.
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Giving Syria anything with a warhead on it is asking for trouble, they have already killed refugees in Turkey which is a gross violation of borders.
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Edited by Swim Good: 5/29/2013 9:07:27 AMSurely Russia are partially to blame as well for saying they'll arm Syria.
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What world peace? There hasn't been any of that in a loooooonnnng time.