I couldn't agree with you more. The VoG has been out for months now, and for those who always go to LFG, and post for " Atheon Checkpoint," but have never got the relic, is a mystery on its own. I know, I know, "but Fearless, the VoG is old now.." Yeah, that's my point. Vog has been out long enough for people to get experience with the relic, no excuses (unless your a Christmas Noob, then your ok). And as far as CE' HM, we (32's) should be well on our way, to run sword (efficiently) every time when the opportunity presents itself...