I've always stated first thing that I've never done it. Have still been booted. That's why so many of us don't know vog. I've had the game since the first week and is my first foray into online gaming. I admit I'm new to it but I'm a decent gamer and don't need carrying. Once got to Atheon with a group and when we wiped it wasn't me dying. I took out at least 4 oracles each time I was transported but they blamed me and booted.