I spent the last couple days trying to avoid reading the most recent message on weapons. I brought myself to open it and I exploded in rage for about 15 minutes! These forums are fine for talking about weapons, but posting that this and that weapon need to be nerfed really aggravates me. STOP TAKING STUPID COMMENTS FROM YOUR COMMUNITY AND MAKING THEM HAPPEN, BUNGIE! I'm an auto rifle fanatic at heart, but don't disregard this for that matter. I love the same weapons everyone else does: Fatebringer, Vex, Black Hammer, and every other exotic I can dominate enemies with. Stop complaining when you die by a weapon in crucible because its gonna happen whether you are good, bad, or elite. Have you ever considered the way that all this nerfing affects PvE. I don't need to suffer while killing Crota because you don't like my suros and vex blasting you in crucible! As of right now I don't mind how powerful certain weapons are and in my opinion if you worked to attain and level them you deserve to dominate. I've done my share of complaining like everybody else about weapons and abilities, but I haven't demanded it to be changed through the forums. Lastly for all the Christmas noobs who are just now complaining about the same stuff that Bungie and the rest of the community has heard for the past 4 months, don't even start now! Please!
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Theyre going to have to rebalance the weapons agsin because every1 will be using the next best weapon(pulse rifle). Until they realise their mistake and rebalance weapons, we will have to make due with their -blam!- ups.
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If you can honestly say that the vex doesn't need a little tone down then you are absolutely crazy. It dominates crucible, there is no " dude change your playing style" the vex is way too powerful, I think it takes 3 head shots to kill, which is insane for being a auto rifle pretty much.
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Edited by Lost Sols: 2/9/2015 3:08:07 AMHow exactly is lowering the effective range of ARs going to affect your PvE play? I'm honestly curious because ARs will still work the exact same at close to mid range and that's the only place they're viable in PvE already. If you're currently using your AR as a long range weapon in PvE, I'd love to know why. The only place they are a viable option at range is in the Crucible and they're too good from too far out in there. That's why they're also widening the shot cone of fusion rifles, they're meant to be mid range weapons. With the right perks, some were allowing people to get one hit kills from way further out than intended. Again this change will improve PvP and have [i]zero[/i] effect on PvE. You're not long range killing shit with fusion rifles in PvE and if you are, you're doing it wrong. I understood the anger at the Vex nerf because it was so hard to get and was supposed to be the best weapon around. I don't understand all the anger at making entire classes function properly. And when they're all viable in PvP at scout range, they're not functioning properly.
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You can blame all the pvp nerf babies and Bungie for not caring about the pve player's. It sucks.
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I'm just scared that they will nerf the ghorn
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Bungie is nerf crazy. So gay.
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Instead of nerfing how about adding something in so the game is harder then both sides of this argument would be happy but bungie are to stupid for that take the easy way hey bungie.
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The nerfs are just so the weapons are all competitive. I love my AR's too, but their has to be some point where you say, this is just too easy to use. Same with all the exotic hand cannons, two shots from the thorn, sniper range from hawkmoon, and the highest TTK of any gun in the game from the last word. Suros is still going to be competitive and a top tier exotic weapon for crucible. Just because there is a 2.5% damage decrease is coming to auto rifles, doesn't mean that they will be unusable. The nerfs are just so you can change up your play style and use something other than these godly weapons. I can't wait to see how the red death turns out, I'm excited to see pulse rifles become competitive, I'm happy to see these crap high ROF pulse rifles get more damage. It was needed for more variation in gameplay. It was made so not everyone uses the best weapons in the game just to be competitive. I am glad about this new patch. Don't complain until you see how the patch turns out.
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That son of oryx troll caused all of this.
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See the problem is embedded in your thought process. You are an ar fanatic BECAUSE it's far too easy to use. You may think you like the playstyle but no, you just like that you can get easy kills without aiming much or really thinking much. You are the one that needs to stop complaining and get better because YOU are the problem.
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They can do whatever they want in PVP, but LEAVE PVE ALONE! it's obviously possible!
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It won't effect pve I for one am glad for the change in guns fusion rifles and hand cannons needed it also shotguns are getting 200% boost in pve
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Paragraphs, very useful if you have allot of shit to say.
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