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2/7/2015 10:04:44 PM
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Auto Rifle "Nerf'
Those quotation marks around "nerf" were to demonstrate sarcasm, by the by.
Seriously, have any of you ever done math or played an MMO before? This coming update is not a nerf. It's hardly a change at all.
SUROS Regime Focus Fire Headshot : 35 (6 shots to kill)
SUROS Regime Focus Fire Headshot -2.5% damage : 34 (6 shots to kill)
That is THE SINGULAR most powerful auto rifle in the game, in terms of Impact. No auto rifle can hit for more than 35.
So no auto rifle is losing more than 1 off of its highest damage value in the Crucible. Times to kill will be identical.
The real kicker to this tweak is shortening auto rifle range, not reducing the damage. It will relegate auto rifles to the ranges at which they belonged in the first place. I guarantee you that [b]most of you will notice no difference at all.[/b]
The damage decrease will truly only manifest in PvE, where 2.5% of, say, 465 would actually be a significant figure - but it's still a ridiculously small percentage. 31s doing Crota's End on Hard - you're doing [i]40%[/i] less. And you still kill things.
Auto rifles are almost exclusively used for trash mobs anyway. Bigger enemies have you taking out the sniper or rockets.
Pulse rifles are also not going to become "the new auto rifle".
Back before its most recent update, Red Death could kill in 2 bursts to the head (6 shots - same as the Regime!).
Its damage was for whatever reason decreased and now it takes 3 bursts again. The coming update will push it back over the 2-burst threshold.
Remember that guy who kept kicking your ass with the Red Death? No? Oh, right, it never happened. It was second-rate then and still will be after the patch. But it will be [i]viable[/i].
I want to thank Bungie for finally righting what wrongs there were in terms of balance, but I can't. For one it should have been this way out of the gate, that's why we did the beta. For two, I have my doubts that even this contentious update will be sufficient. Something more extreme may be in order... or else more and more tweaks in small increments.
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You don't know what you're talking about. Boo this man.
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Exactly. There are still a few 2 burst PR's floating around right now though.
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The damage isn't the biggest change its the range
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3 RepliesI'm not sure if you understand but most AR's except suros need buff not nerf. Before abyss defiant was available I struggled to find even 1 AR user in any raid. Try telling me with a straight face necrochasm needs a nerf
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5 RepliesIt's not a nerf, it just repurposes them.
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except your wrong. if your going to rant about how a nerf is actually ok to everyone at least read the notes fully with a reasonable understanding of english. the nerf isn't a flat 2.5% across all AR's. its scaled in terms of the impact , so where the nerf might be 1% on (the already feeble bullet hoses) doctor nope and nechrojizzum, etc. the suros and vanquisher will take the much higher hit of perhaps 5% or more. hence the 2.5% is the average nerf across all AR's. so while 5% might not seem like much if every bullet hits for 600 (for example) and loses 30 on each bullet, thats a drop of 990 damage on a 33 round clip. ( ala the suros) so it might be more severe than we think.
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Im confident about the changes. They seem to have a good dataminer in their backend and so Tons of data as base fir their new desing decisions. I personally love the buffs to the pulse rifles, since im using juju and overdict allready a while in crucible. However, the worst enemy is still the lag. To bad, it's not really patchable
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I like playing both modes and I do like it for PvP. But I hate how it punishes PvE. Many people I know who play Destiny like PvE more or play it exclusively. These balancing issues shouldn't impact them in this mode but for some reason bungie thinks they are the same thing.
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1 ReplyNerf, buff, whatever. It's the same for everyone isn't it? Worst case scenario...You might have to figure out how to use some different guns.
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Vex Mythoclast
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Red death has a faster fire rate now though. It will wreck.
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Just is no skills needing the advantage they had and without it they cannot do as well as they did before that are crying about the re-balance. Any gamer with any true level of skill will just take this and continue on without any issue at all, pvp or pve.
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2 RepliesI believe you mean, ' That is the single most powerful ....' And ... it is 'For one ....' and then 'For another' (not 'For two'). I agree with what you say though bro. :-)
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1 ReplyDestiny is still in beta.
