[quote] have you ever seen an ice core yourself? Have you ever gone in and confirmed their information to make sure[/quote] This is a silly thing to say unless your speaking directly to an educated climate scientist who can analyze the greenhouse gasses in the tiny air bubbles. This is the sort of thing they say on Fox "news" to make their audience believe they'd be somehow qualified to read those samples. There not, all they see is dirty ice. It's also like all those Republican law makers saying "I'm not a scientist" to slither out of environmental questions (remember, these are the same guys who want god in the classroom and literally believe some political rivals are the antichrist LOL). In doing so acknowledging that scientists would know better. Who in their right mind would then go with the assessment of a tiny percentage of mostly religious scientists who's very scientific objectivity is compromised by default? (Unless money and or blind faith has something to do with it.) If you're not a scientist it's probably your best bet to go with what the vast majority of them find, through what we like to call [u]the scientific method[/u], to be fact. [Quote] because you have to rely on blind faith to support it all.[/Quote] Blind faith has nothing to do with it. Science is not fath. Period. Science is about knowledge earned by someone through trial and error experimentation and observation. Faith is by definition being willing/nieve enough to believe in something without anybody having any proof. Its something conservative and religious types use to confuse their followers either out of sheer ignorance of what science and facts really are or just to muddy the waters for political or monetary gain. Faith might be a dangerous thing. I think the fact that so many grown voters have no idea what science and fact are is proof that teaching religion and faith at a young age by presenting it as fact cripples those students ability to think critically later in life. They think differently. Its a fact that their misunderstanding of scienctific value has lead to very deep cuts in real research. These people are holding us back as a spiecies. And in doing so gambling with our very future. After all, if the majority of educated scientists are wrong then no big deal, the worst thing is some oil tycoons dont have quite as much money. If the scientists are right however, the consequences could litterally lead to the end of civilization as we know it. Media is partly to blame for all these conservatives being so dangerously clueless. They get better ratings when they cover something as a competition. There's also this need to devote equal time to both sides of an issue with the news. But this is not how science works. The group of mostly religious "scientists" are a ridiculously small minority, we don't give equal time to the flat earthers. So we should probably question what motives and factors might lead these few denier scientists to come to their aberrant conclusions, and what might make certain right leaning news outlets give them so much credence. This denier crisis is all about conservative lawmakers doing favors for their big oil doners, and whipping up their ignorant constituencies by taking advantage of both their followers religious thought processes and the current us vs them sports team feel of today's politics to say "those guys care about that? Screw them" and that's all it takes to convince them. It's bad enough politics work this way but science is not a team sport. Many of these denier scientists blindly believe in a 2000 year old fairytale which was written to entertain shepherds who had nothing else to think about but rocks and goat pellets. "God will sort it out" they say, and later, when it's too late to make any positive impact they'll just say "those sinners brought gods wrath down apon us". [i]*facepalm*[/i] [i]I saw an interview with a "scientist" from the creation museum recently. When the scientific method consistantly comes up with answers that dont fit their religion it's their policy to side with the word of god. These people are not scientists.[/i] +5 troll points though, jimmys were russeled :)