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1/31/2015 4:24:57 PM
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I disagree. I think it shows great artistic talent. Why do you think some art classes have you draw a model? You're just copying what's in front of you, but by doing so you display your understanding of proportions, light, hand control, etc.
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That's not all you're doing. Plus, the point I'm making, that model isn't somebody else's piece of art.
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The point I'm making is that he shows great artistic talent. Do you think animators draw their own creations? You still have a lot to learn if you think showing technical skills isn't artistic talent. And you might want to start thinking about what practical applications your art skills will have in the professional world. I can tell you that more times than not, the disciplined and technically skilled will have good paying jobs, the "creative" ones will make really cool art in coffee.
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Lol art is not a stable career at all. I'm going into mechanical engineering or maybe even chemical engineering.
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I started drawing at a very early age and still do. I went to college for animation and have been doing it since. I will say that because of my drawing skills, I was a better animator than other students. I'm not saying that to brag. I'm stating the fact that because of the work I put into my drawing skills, it payed off and it continues to do so.
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The video game you're playing called Destiny is a piece of art. The entire multi billion dollar industry is based around art. More power to you for heading towards engineering, but you do realize those are very technical professions right? Almost opposite of the creative industry.
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Do you know how hard it is to get a job at these big corporations, though? At least in the art division. Art schools come to my high school all the time boasting about how they will have 1 or 2 students who worked on CoD. 1 or 2 out of what, 50,000? I never said its a low paying career. It's unstable. Not many jobs require artistic talent. I do art because it's fun. It's a hobby, not a career to me. But I'm still allowed to voice my opinion on this drawing. It's an open forum
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I never said you weren't allowed to voice your opinion, I just disagreed with it. And saying "copying something shows no artistic talent" like its a fact is rude and untasteful. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's still an opinion. And you might see it as a hobby, but he might take it seriously. This thread isn't about you, it's about someone who took the initiative to spend hours on something they were passionate about and shared it with the community. Like I said, you're entitled to your opinion, but they are negative and toxic.
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Not negative. Everybody here is calling me a douche, or wrong, or an idiot. I was defending my statement. Just as you're defending your statement that you disagree with me.
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Come on man, "copying a picture shows no artistic talent" is very negative. It's definitely not a positive comment. How would you feel if I told you the piece of work you put up showed no artistic talent?
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artistic talent is based on creativity. Creativity is a skill separate from basic drawing skills or any other crafting skill. When you're told to draw a model in drawing class, they want you to understand how the model exists within the world around it and the ability to transfer it onto whatever canvas you're using. How it interacts with light, the shapes that make up the model, hand/eye coordination etc. These are not artistic skills but craftsmanship skills. To be creative is to be original in thinking and doing. To make something new. To look at something, bend the rules, and provide something that is completely unique.
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Edited by Yu Tai Mai Shu: 1/31/2015 5:32:06 PMArtistic talent is based on creating something aesthetically pleasing. Nowhere in the definition of artistic, does it mention creativity.
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Unfortunately you are so far from right. Please look at the definition of art before trying to debate.
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I think you need to look up the definition of art. In fact here you go: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/art?s=t
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Edited by SKTCHWLKR: 1/31/2015 6:31:55 PMart noun 1. the expression or application of human [b]creative[/b] skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power. "the art of the Renaissance" synonyms: fine art, artwork "he studied art" works produced by human [b]creative[/b] skill and imagination. "his collection of modern art" synonyms: fine art, artwork "he studied art" [b]creative[/b] activity resulting in the production of paintings, drawings, or sculpture. "she's good at art" 2. the various branches of [b]creative[/b] activity, such as painting, music, literature, and dance. "the visual arts" EDIT* "Artistic talent is based on [b]creating[/b] something aesthetically pleasing. Nowhere in the definition of artistic, does it mention creativity." [b]Creative[/b]- having the ability to create. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/creative?s=t In other words, you're argument is 100% hypocritical.
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Hrm... noun 1. the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance. 2. the class of objects subject to aesthetic criteria; works of art collectively, as paintings, sculptures, or drawings: a museum of art; an art collection. See fine art, commercial art. 3. a field, genre, or category of art: Dance is an art. 4. the fine arts collectively, often excluding architecture: art and architecture. 5. any field using the skills or techniques of art: advertising art; industrial art. 6. a branch of learning or university study, especially one of the fine arts or the humanities, as music, philosophy, or literature: She was adept at the arts of music and painting; I've always felt an affinity towards the visual arts, though I studied art of philosophy. 7. arts. (used with a singular verb) the humanities, as distinguished from the sciences and technical fields: a college of arts and sciences. (used with a plural verb) liberal arts : Faculty of Arts. Which is what I linked from www.dictionary.com doesn't match what you posted, does it?
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Edited by SKTCHWLKR: 1/31/2015 7:35:45 PMI got my definition from the internet as well. Let me ask you this. Are you an artist?
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Kinda funny that you didn't provide a link to your definition, yet used the same internet website I did for art, for the definition of "creative"...things that make you go hrm... Nope, I'm not an artist, doesn't mean I don't know what the definition of art is. There are a lot of things I know about that I don't necessarily do.
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Just google art definition. https://www.google.com/search?num=100&espv=2&q=art+definition&oq=art+&gs_l=serp.1.0.0i67l3j0i10i67j0i67l6.7790.13238.0.14103.5.5.0.0.0.0.136.433.2j2.4.0.msedr...0...1c.1.61.serp..2.3.310.0.NCHV3rdIBaw Ok well you are not an artist, which I assumed. So then what makes you think that creativity is not important when it comes to creating art? You see, I am an artist. I've been working on my crafting for over half my life. I have credentials. I've been asking the question 'what is art?' since I was a kid. What do you have? a definition from dictionary.com. So when you come on here and spout BS don't be surprised when you find yourself suddenly burned. Here's a free lessen for ya. To be an artist(one who [b]creates[/b] art) you must be [b]creative[/b](having the ability to create). Definition of Create: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/create
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I got my definition from the internet as well. Let me ask you this. Are you an artist?
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Creativity is not a skill. Look how creative 5 year olds are. Creativity and imagination tend to lessen as you enter the real world.
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If you say that creativity and imagination lessen as we get older than would it be a skill to keep it from doing so?
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No. It's not your choice. It's genetics. Studies have shown advanced intelligence and creativity to be mutually exclusive. You're not skilled because you can make shit up. Your brain just works differently.
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You may be born with creative genes but it's completely up to you what you do with it. You can either do nothing or choose to work and fine tune it.
