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originally posted in: Efrideet's Spear is Overpowered
1/28/2015 10:26:05 PM
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I have Efrideet's Spear…I got it two Iron Banners ago when Saladin was selling it I think at level 4. I re-rolled it and on the first try got Double Down (which means it can spawn with additional ammo - i can start a PvP match with 26 rounds…lol) my perk tree came with +2 agility - field mag - ricochet. I mainly use field mag because I'm a sniping purist at heart. I want head shots. Plus with Double Down and Field Mag together I can start a game with 36 rounds 6 in the mag 30 in reserve and if I can get to my sniper spot for each match first and I'm already fully loaded…it's on. Oh yeah, I can drop field mag slap on the agility and rock the Final Round Perk…but with Field Mag and Final Round this gun is a beast in PvE as well as I can thump a target 5 times then unload a massive damage shot for the 6th round. With the Impact on this gun if you pause 2 seconds between head shots on bosses each head shot will completely stagger the Boss making him a sitting duck for the next two seconds with a well timed full clip you can stagger a boss for 10 to 12 seconds while doing critical damage and giving your fire team time to unload on them as well. As far as the gun being overpowered…i say FINALLY a sniper rifle worthy of being what it should be…a weapon of intimidation. If people in a game figure out where I'm at and what lanes I'm targeting…and they come down them once or twice and afterwards are like screw that. They try to figure out a way to flank or take me out…lol…that's when you know you and your rifle are effective. That's the chess game. Can you get to me and if you do did I fire 5 shots or 6 shots…because that Final Round may still be in the chamber and you may be a One Hit Wonder!
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  • Weapon of intimidation? The only true weapon that striked fear was the vex, and they nerfed the crap out of that. Thanks to this community, they will keep nerfing over and over and over. First vex, then suros, then shotguns. Now it's hand cannons and pulse rifles. Literally, everything just got nerfed (pr atleast will be since bungie caters to whining casuals)

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  • Ah yes i remember those days of the vex terrorising PVP, those were good times even if i never owned one during those times

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  • I got mine one day and they literally nerfed it the day after. I was always proud when I shut down a vex user back then, and my friends revered me. Now everyone just uses whatever gun can kill the fastest because they just want kills, not fun. I used to be able to use NLB and do great with it until the AR nerfed moved all the AR users into shotguns and thorns.

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  • I refuse to use vex, thorn, hawkmoon, TLW Currently rolling with red hand xi and it seems to wreak users of the above

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  • I use red hand ix too, but it's still annoying. I wish they buffed ARs back so people will use a better variety now

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  • Not anymore I can't play anything...crucible or Iron Banner without TLW or Thorn around every corner...it's just dumb...that you can have 2 to 4 weapons that time to kill out trumps all others. I have them but I don't like the pistols in this game. I get taken down with 2 shots of the last word or 3 shots from the thorn and from a pretty good distance away. It's really stupid.

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  • Tbh, I could care less about tlw and thorn. They aren't op at all, they are fine. The reason why everyone now says they are op is because after the AR nerf, everyone moved to hand cannons because they are the next best efficient weapon. My problem isn't with the guns, it's the people who join a game with 6 thorns. I've been shot so many times in 5 seconds that my dead body probably died 6 times.

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  • That's what I mean...when i die it's usually TLW Thorn or Felwinters Lie...it's because they are OP that people use them...their time to kill us faster than let's say my Gheleons demise which deals high impact but still takes 3 to 4 shots and it fires fairly slow. The multi tool or another Nitc are more viable but all scout rifles are now inferior to pulse rifles especially red death. So it forces people to get the same weapons level them up and use them in the war zone and now everyone is using the same ol crap. That's the problem...that's why they are introducing re-rolling of crucible and vanguard gear...so people can spend materials to try and get OP rolls for specialization like PvE or PvP.

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  • Actually no Those guns ARE balanced. It's the community that just wants easy kills. Auto rifles were the most efficient, so they became the most dominant. Once that was nerfed, they moved onto the next most efficient. It's the communities fault for abusing guns just for kills and not playing for fun.

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  • I can't blame the community for choosing the most effective weapons for killing in a game focused on killing. Think Halo for a second...everyone's weapons have the same stats. In a 1v1 face off it comes down to skill. In Destiny it more often comes down to who has the better gear or perks. I've seen so many people make there Destiny montages and they are just spamming TLW hoping to land 2 or 3 bullets in the 3 seconds it takes to empty the clip. Maybe it's more to real life...some countries have better gear so the little guy gets stomped on. But that is why everyone hates the USA because we have the better weapons and we can and will enforce our will for whatever reason we want...whether that's true or not is not the point...the point is that's what the little guys sees and thinks. So now the little guy has to have nukes to play the game. North Korea...Iran. Except in Destiny there is only one weapons maker and that's the development team. They never should have nerves the auto rifles...just brought up the pulse rifles enough to be a viable and competitive option.

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