Thorn- seriously just played crucible for about an hour, every match there were at least three thorn users. Too much dot Shoulder barge- this one is self explanitory Fist of havoc- to quickly activated, not counterable by other supers No land beyond- so damn overpowered, strongest pve weapon in the game, a true marvel of the crucible. A magnificent machine of death capable of unparalleled levels of destruction Also, buff the damn Gjallahorn! Things an unusable piece of shit. Complete garbage, seriously it's a goddamn joke of a weapon. Just buy a no land beyond instead