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1/25/2015 5:45:56 AM
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Did you know sniper rifles really exist that can shoot through several feet of rock?
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Edited by Afawafa: 1/26/2015 2:12:05 PMShotguns in real life are actually fairly accurate beyond 5m unlike in destiny. But that wouldn't really be too great for game balance.
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Did you know that no, they don't. Nothing firing lead bullets is going through several feet of rock. Even with API ammo you're not going to be shooting through boulders.
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Edited by GemCutter: 1/25/2015 6:39:43 AM[quote]Did you know that no, they don't. Nothing firing lead bullets is going through several feet of rock. Even with API ammo you're not going to be shooting through boulders.[/quote] Well it depends on the gun, target, and ammo. Depleted uranium rounds go through 8inch thick tank armor. It's the damn future.
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Even an A-10's GAU-8 firing 30mm depleted uranium rounds is not going to penetrate 8 inches of RHA.
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[quote]Even an A-10's GAU-8 firing 30mm depleted uranium rounds is not going to penetrate 8 inches of RHA.[/quote] [url=http://youtu.be/LZLe-tObCeQ]armor piercing 10in steel[/url]
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You realize that there's a difference between a rifle bullet and an anti-tank missile, right?
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[quote]You realize that there's a difference between a rifle bullet and an anti-tank missile, right?[/quote] A missle is just a big bullet with a rocket engine homie. And if we can design projectiles [i]today[/i] that can penetrate 10in thick hardened steel, why the -blam!- can't a future gun shoot through rocks?
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[quote] A missle is just a big bullet with a rocket engine homie.[/quote] Not even close, homie.
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Just another way of moving a projectile through the air to target. You probably think lemons and limes are completely unrelated.
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The warhead of an anti-tank missile is not simply a projectile. You have no clue what you're talking about.
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Depleted uranium kinetic energy penetrators are basically giant bullets that melt through armor so just stfu now.
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Completely different from an anti-tank missile. The type of projectile you're talking about is fired from something like the 120mm gun on an Abrams tank, not a shoulder fired weapon. Again, you're clueless.
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[quote]Completely different from an anti-tank missile. The type of projectile you're talking about is fired from something like the 120mm gun on an Abrams tank, not a shoulder fired weapon. Again, you're clueless.[/quote] They have them for the avenger in 30mm, and could in theory be made for say a .50bmg. Again, it's a video game in the future filled with alien tech and you have a problem with AP rounds?
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I'm not your little enemy's friend. But you sir are clueless. A 120mm APFSDS round is NOT shoulder fired. It would probably destroy the ambitious guardian trying to do so. It's a tank round sir. A antitank missile / recoilless rifle is a HEAT round. It will explode and in so doing blast through armour by the nature of the size of its explosive payload. It does not 'penetrate' through to hit something 10 feet behind. Since we're talking about realism here, I thought you ought to know. Instead of misleading the kids. Go google those terms or look them up on wiki if you please.
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Again, there are 30mm DU rounds that melt through armor, if 20mm rounds can be fired with a shoulder mounted rifle as has been done, a 30mm could as well, would just need to be huge. And also, many of these walls are just standard building materials, they had AP rounds in the 30's that would go through steel plate. Modern .50bmg AP tungsten core rounds fired from a Barrett shoulder fired semi auto tactical rifle will go through inches of steel. So why then, given these FACTS, is AP rounds fired from shoulder mounted rifles in a game about the FAR future filled with alien tech that is much more far-fetched a problem?
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Edited by MonkMilitant: 3/8/2015 8:46:32 AMDU is a direct impact/kinetic energy projectile...it doesn't "melt" through armor. It uses it's mass/velocity to punch through. It's not a magic bullet and has obvious limitations. HEAT/EFP technology uses shaped charge/super heated molten metal to destroy armor. There is a lot of wiki/Internet expertise bring spouted in here. Listen to military folks concerning munitions and their application.
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Why did you dig up this old ass post? When you see a piece of steel that has been penetrated by any kind of AP, it sure looks melted to me. Regardless, we have rounds today that will penetrate heavy armor. So why people have a problem with AP rounds in the far future filled with alien tech is beyond me. Doesn't even matter now cause they nerfed the shit out of AP rounds.
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Exactly lol. Logic fails alot of people
