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Edited by jRontgen:
1/26/2015 4:40:38 AM
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Efrideet's Spear is Overpowered
Rolled with the proper perks, I believe this rifle is a bit game breaking and should be nerfed. Certain perks shouldn't be allowed on sniper rifles (e.g. armor piercing rounds, final round). What do you guys think? I put together a montage of how ridiculous this weapon is.
***Update: I am more so asking for opinions on the perks (final round, armor piercing rounds) and wether you consider them overpowered or not on a sniper rifle. Efrideet's Spear is simply an excellent example of these perks due to the reforging option, small clip size, and massive impact.
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Another overpowered post. Cool.
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11 RepliesNothing is op in this game. If you're smart, there's a proper counter for everything.
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I have AP and Final Round on a spear and I wont argue that its a one shot kill in the foot through a wall. I also have spray and play on it so before the patch with the way special ammo is in PVP now I'd shoot off the first 2 and run around with one bullet. Now with the way the ammo is in PVP I dont think the perks are that game breaking anymore. You just dont get enough ammo to pop off the first 2 rounds and just use your final round.
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I prefer my cadance b with crowd control
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Yes yes it is just look at my perks
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It's a sniper. It takes more skill than shotguns even with final round.
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14 Repliesthe only thing I would want changed is for final round to not apply to crucible.
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4 RepliesWhine more. AP rounds were nerfed already. They can't go through all walls now, only very thin ones. People won't be shooting you through thick walls or objects anymore. And there's a damage reduction. Really, the problem here is not the Final Round perk. It's the fact there is TOO much special ammo in Crucible. Reduce special ammo spawn by 50% or more and this problem, along with shotgun and fusion rifle problems, will go away. The fix: -Players do not spawn or respawn with special ammo. -Upon death, enemies carrying special ammo will drop 50% of the special ammo they had left. -Cut half of the special ammo crates from each map. -Special ammo crates spawn at the beginning of the match, and once every 2 minutes.
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7 RepliesIt's a sniper rifle its supposed to be powerful Get over it
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1 ReplyAnd weapons of light should be nerf shouldn't it since it is a one shot with a high impact sniper
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9 RepliesArmor piercing rounds seem to me really logical for a sniper rifle. No problem with it. Final round... well... Most sniper need only one bullet for a kill so what's the use of that (apart in pvE against bosses.. maybe) and how can it be seen as a 'game changer'?
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1 ReplyWell, this post was made before the armor piercing round nerf, so there goes that. Final round is annoying, but there's a lot less special ammo.
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Final Round was the only thing making that broken. Even the ability to shoot through walls as well as it used to wasn't broken because you can't see the target, you have to get either extremely lucky or be very very good at estimating someone's location to nail them when you can't see them. Especially with the special ammo nerf you can't even spam it anymore. They should have simply removed final round from snipers and left AP rounds well enough alone, they were fine as they were. The AP rounds gave snipers an awesome mechanic that made for some fantastic strategic action in PvE and to a degree in PvP. Nerfed to the point of useless because so many people abused a [b]different perk[/b]. Crying shame that was the only solution the devs could come up with.
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Also another defense . The no land beyond is the best in game sniper . Pop a 1 shot head shot . Cover . Pop another .cover if you lean on this weapon it will grant you eternal life!!
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1 ReplyHAHAHA! NOW ITS THE SPEAR WE WANT NEFRED PLEASE CRY TO YOUR MOTHER. WINTERS LIE SHOTGUN IS UNDERRATED NOW?? THE SNIPER ROLLED WITH CORRECT PERKS GIVES YOU 1 BODYSHOT KILL OUT OF 3 BULLETS . AND LAST I CHECKED SPECIAL AMMO IS DIFFICULT TO GET . PERSONALLY WOULD RATHER BE KILLED BYE THE SPEAR ,THEN THE LIE OF A SHOTGUN .
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1 ReplyMine can get them less than 25% in health with one shot.
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AP rounds: Perfect for killing those boomer knights behind the door in the omnigul room. :D
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No its not
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-blam!- off. I didn't spend 100 notes of light trying to get the perfect roll.
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I have field scout and final round. Since the ammo nerf, you're dumb to waste rounds. I regularly fill it up to 24 rounds and just go on headshot sprees. Why only get 8 guaranteed kills when I could get 15 or so? It's not that OP. Black Hammer has same impact. Final round only impacts 1 round and if you're foolish enough to waste rounds, go ahead. And if you don't have field scout, I mean I guess fine. I'll just have a lot more ammo (usually the whole match) through the round.
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I snipe on some maps in PvP and don't need no Final Round bullshit. Thats the shit I use in PvE - on solo NF with burns..Final Round is a b147ch smack that flips the boss hard. In PvP anyway its usually 70-100% headshots, barring the accidental/unintentional body hit. so Final Round is pretty useless unless someone intentionally goes for body shots. I mean wtf..using sniper rifle as scout,,? Take away Final round and AP for all I care, it doesn't matter whether its 420 critical or 520 critical on someone. Still gonna nail it with the Spear. AP isn't what it used to be, and is the primary reason of lowering precision percentage when it worked. That trololol shot behind cover was too hard to resist. Glad they nerfed that shit and I got me rid of that stupid habit.
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Final round is op? Shit better nerf wolf pack rounds and cluster bombs too. 1 shot of the spear leaves you at extremely low health so one shot with final round should kill you anyways. If you don't want to get sniped don't stay out in the open where I can hit you a mile away.
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I think you need to pay better attention to your surroundings and stop being target practice for snipers.
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Stop being a crucibitch. Also, it's a magazine. Not a clip.
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Edited by Raksis The Great: 5/13/2015 11:12:42 AMLet's nerf anything that can get kills. Crucibabies, smh.
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Edited by slayer britt: 5/13/2015 11:11:46 AMOnly high impact snipers with final round are OP. I leveled up a final boss with AP rounds and final round, expecting a one shot kill to the body. No such luck. Its close, but not a kill. And AP rarely seems to be that effective. So, in general, no. They are not OP. Efrideets spear is a great sniper in both PvE and PvP. No need to fix what isn't broken. Edit: just saw how old this post was, never mind I guess. AP rounds got nerfed since then lol.
