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Edited by DemitriousK:
1/21/2015 11:29:52 PM
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Why is beating Crota on normal so hard for me?
No, really, hear me out. I'm not complaining here I'm trying to learn -- by asking what's up. I know everyone is super busy doing the hard mode raid right now, but throw a guardian a bone and give me some advice ;)
So I only recently really hit 31 (not a Christmas noob... but not far off (say ~2 months before))
I also am a Husband, Dad, and employee. So my time is pretty limited, and it's not scheduled (so I can't promise to specifically be on from 8-9pm every single day, or every Friday, etc) I do have 2 alts both at 30... (working on them, again time.) Only this l week I was able to run the NightFall 3 times which I was pretty proud of.
So when I get a few hours to rub together to try and tackle something more challenging (a raid for example) I'm relying on random pickup groups. Also because of this I don't know the raids like clockwork -- I need some instruction. I'll shoot whatever you want with my 331 jellyhorn when someone yells out "fire now" until I'm out of heavy synth... But I've never tried being sword bearer for example. Someone has to lead. (also making the problem of not knowing HOW worse is that until recently everyone wanted to cheese everything, which doesn't help a filthy casual like me learn but even then I still had bad luck with finding a group capable of cheesing and completing the entire raid, which was always puzzling to me...) I have had just TERRIBLE luck.
Often I'm listening to people badmouthing their previous team. Talking about how everyone else did things wrong. People talking about how easy it is, how they can down Crota in 10 minutes, or do the whole raid in 30 minutes with "their group" or whatever.
Then I go where I'm told, do what I'm told, shoot what I'm told. At least I try to. Wipe. Wipe. Wipe. Wipe. 1 person leaves. Wipe. Wipe. 3 more leave. Orbit.
So now... by this point... that was the end of my couple hours I found to rub together to try and get this done. Maybe try again next week. I can't seem to actually beat a raid with anyone
(for those who like checking the cards and vetting peoples accounts I have technically beaten the raid by virtue of being on a team who cheeses the hell out of everything 3 (i think) weeks ago. Most of my time was spent twiddling my thumbs while people stripped naked and danced for the glory of the moon in the woods at midnight. (or at least may as well have for as much as it "taught me" anything about how to complete the raid now that the cheeses are mostly fixed) so I got my light of the abyss and a couple pieces of raid gear (but not enough to pop 32) and the rest of my shards and energy were from cheesing the first chest a couple of weeks with all 3 characters...)
So then... What am I doing wrong? I assume it has to be me because I seem to be the common denominator, If everyone else is telling the truth about how easy it is, and how they can do it no problem. I'm ready to admit it if I'm just plain bad, but along with telling me that I'm bad tell me how to get good, make the flaming a constructive one and I'll be happy. What advice do y'all have?
Gimme a minute to go get my flame retardant suite on and then let me have it!
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2 RepliesThe reason you are having trouble is because people really are bad. on normal stay on the left side. And ffs someone grab the chalice. Have 1 person ALWAYS shooting boomers. make sure this person is 31+. that guy does not: 1) shoot crota, ever 2) shoot thrall 3) shoot sword bearer 4) look anywhere else but the boomer tower. If that wasn't clear, DON'T DO ANYTHIGN ELSE EXCEPT KILL BOOMER KNIGHTS. Everyone else should be jumping on that sword bearer. He shouldn't have seconds to live. he should be DEAD when you see him. And don't use primary ammo. Shoot him with your heavy and special ffs. synths are in the game for a reason you cheap mofo. Only down crota when the sword guy is in position. and ffs call out when crota is almost down. You want as much time for the sword guy to damage him as possible. And make sure you down him TWICE every time you get a sword. for the second time you MUST WAIT for him to stop glowing orange or all shots you put out will be immune. If crota runs to the right before you get a second shot at him, then your team was too slow. Too slow probably because you guys were picking your own ass holes instead of killing the sword bearer. In anycase it's not the end of the world if you only get him once per rotation, but the fight will then drag on and you might have to worry about enrage. When crota runs right wait until he is middle again to kill the sword bearer. then repeat the steps above. Once you get him twice again, everyone run to the center hallway under the crystal IMMEDIATELY. Don't wait or shoot stuff, RUN. Crota will eventually run left and has a good chance of killing you if you're still there. From the hallway wait and shoot ogres when they appear. When they are down WAIT FOR CROTA TO MOVE MIDDLE before you go back to your position left side. On your way back watch for thralls and exploders. That guy on boomer duty is still doing that right? because he should be. From here on out the fight repeats like that for a total of 3 rotations. if you don't have crota down he will enrage after that. If crota enrages it is still possible to down him, but it will be a bit trickier. If crota won't go down in the next sword by this point, you should probably just wipe. If he will go down, have 1 person focus on killing the sword bearer while everyone else hits the oversoul. Once hes down the sword guy gets into position. you MUST WAIT to take down crotas shield until right after an oversoul goes down or you might not have enough time to take down crota and oversoul at the same time. that's it. normal crota is even easier than atheon. the reason wipes happen is because people are too damn slow to react to whats going on. kill that damn sword bearer quickly, someone should always be focusing on boomers, and the sword guy should know to gtfo when crota stands back up. no one should be dying. The chalice should be passed around like a cheap hooker. The sword guy also shouldn't take the chalice with him since it doesn't serve much purpose. he shouldn't be getting hit by boomers, and if crota hits him hes dead anyway.
