Ok even then there's...during the 3 waves you have 3 minotaurs which can be sniped to take down shields making life easier for you.. 3 hobgoblins that spawn on cave 3 on the floor which means you take the 3 on floor I take the 3 on cave while sniping...2 hydras that is actually better to snipe so you can hit the critical spot from above w/o worrying about the shield..there's no reason for you to be upset about ppl sniping half a mile away when the roc strikes are lvl 26 trash mobs that you can solo eyes closed in 15 mins alone (in most cases)...having someone sniping with you chilling back isn't slowing you down....plenty of times I've delt with afkers or snipers and didn't cause me to slow down...if by chance I was dealing w/ 2 afkers then just orbit and new fireteam...what your crying about is actually really stupid imo...but your entitled to yours