Ok maybe im not only one to ever think of it i dont scower the web. But it was a fresh idea from my head and made ogres a 15 second cake walk. Ok so you have downed crota center, he went right, you downed him at center again is my setup for this method. And at the moment your on top of left stairs. 1-Kill last boomers on left and when thrall spawn whole group run to doorway below left boomers and clear the couple thrall out then enter 2- at this point have a titan pop bubble with blessing of light, hugged against right wall. 3- first ogre will spawn in this room on left side, keep back and lay into him hard, hitting the eye if you can crit with your weapon, with all six ppl he will down in under 5 seconds and be stunned whole time. 4- simply use doorway to spot other ogre and use bubble and giant pillar to take cover. Play conservatively because you already saved a huge chunk of time. 5- ensure crota is gone and have team return to left stairs and room with 2 ppl designated to watch for boomers incase they spawned already. 6- return to left side stradegy and if done properly, you will have time for a 5th sword. Extra notes!!!! Reguarding first ogre- - you want to hug right wall to ensure no one gets melleed -2 things will easily ensure ogre stays stunned -1 is high calibur rounds perk on weapon your using -2 fusion rifles will also make ogre kick back his head. -Note whole team does not need these but atleast 2 should be using 1 of these 2 methods. 3 being in this room spawn blocks thrall Edited [b]I have gone center plenty of times by the way, and this method had me dying of how effective it is[/b] [b]no this method is not for people who down crota with 2 swords[/b] Edited for clarification