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1/12/2015 11:06:49 AM
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Guardians can't be revived unless a teammate is there. And if a teammate takes too long to be revived they're lost for good. Shin waited hours where Jaren "supposedly" died and then the ghost started the hunt for a guardian again. And Shin was just a boy adopted by Jaren and coincidentally he had the potential to be a guardian also.
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I would be hesitant to make the claim that they cannot be revived without a teammate - we revive all of the time without them in non-darkness zones. The Ghost grimoire card even states they can save a guardian from death under the right circumstances (ie no darkness). This begs the question what causes a darkness zone? Could Dredgen Yor create a darkness zone with his weapon of sorrow that did not also damage the ghost? The story is too ambiguous to say anything for certain I suppose, I still choose to believe Yor and Ward are the same individual.
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Yeah it's all extremely vague. Why didn't Jaren kill his own ghost? Why didn't he take out his teammates? Where would he keep Thorn? Why would he take his teammates only to abandon them and switch over to the darkness? What is this Rose that Yor carries? I still think Jaren and Yor are two different people. But you know what? Agree to disagree.
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Wards last act as a noble man was to preserve his memory before being consumed by the darkness. The Thorn grimoire even states that as a fact for whomever transformed into Yor. He wasn't evil until he transformed and was far enough away that it wouldn't make a difference. He had created a bond with Shin so his ghost would find him to take up his mantle. Shin states the first time he picked up TLW "unfortunately it wasn't the last time" this could be remorseful regarding Wards death or because he ultimately had to kill him. Also he used the line "your's not mine" as he killed Yor; this could be a revenge statement for Ward or a nod to let Yor know his secret identity. Yor was hunted down by Shin for killing Pahanin, not Ward, as the lore tells us he reigned over the crucible until he killed him. I'm always drawn back to the connection being the "associations" in Thorn fragment 2. Why are Ward, Jaren; Yor, Dredgen; Malphur, Shin; Last Word, and Thorn and not Pahanin, any of the other members of their 9 comrades on the expedition? I believe it is due to the connection of Ward/Yor to Thorn, and Malphur/Ward to TLW with palamon being referenced as it is their common thread of meeting. As you said; agree to disagree.
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Edited by John6Max4: 1/12/2015 12:10:06 PMThere's an equal 50/50 split of either side of the story but what I do like about the Ward/Yor theory is Shin wasn't saying "your last word Yor, not mine". Instead he was saying "this is your gun Jaren, not mine".
