do you really not think i have considered something else? of those I only have Red Death 1.0 and it is not upgraded. I had a Suros long ago but it was 1.0 and i sharded it after i accidentally upgraded past its usefulness for PvP -- i needed the shard for the last node on a piece of armor iirc. RNGeezus has not really been kind to me in the exotics department, haha.