its not fun after the 30th run its just another run it gets old and routine the crota raids pointless now aswell most people should have full gear just about since its just one big loot vendor
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Run it in moderation then. Or not at all. One thing I can promise is that the raids are MUCH more fun when you don't cheese anything.
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ya lets spend four hours working on our teamwork then never speak again legit is fine i personally think everyones kinda stupid in raids we get to the end we know what to wait lets stick our thumbs up our ass and all give up
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Player competence is a whole different issue. Find a good group to run with and you will find cheesing is extremely boring and running the actual raid is actually fun. I have my group to raid with, but I've also found countless randoms that I've continued to run raids with.