Pretty easy fight. Takes about three minutes to do legit, kill two witches, kill two shriekers, kill a witch, done. Fight a hundred knights and off to kill crota. Are the people going around this fight, who aren't willing to invest three minutes, worthy of raid rewards?
EDIT: know what the worst part is? People won't even tell new raiders what's going on. They aren't explaining they are cheesing they aren't explaining how to do the fight legit. Then PPL get mad that no one knows how to do it. If we aren't teaching the new guys what to do how can we be mad at them for not knowing?
Edit: If you guys put as much effort into actually raiding as you do defending your shady actions this would be a non-issue
Hey guys check out this guide written by NEWNS for doing the crota raid legit https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/90285570/0/0 If you have trouble just try this! No need to cheese
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I wish theyd just make the deathsinger stage a lead in the crota instead of a seperate stage. Would make the fight more of an ordeal and a more suspenseful lead up to the final drop
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its a time saver - you can either wipe your bumhole with 10 sheets of toilet paper or 5
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Yeah i was unaware for the first two weeks that i was cheesing the entire raid. Well- i did crota legit for my firat 4 runs and that was super fun. Cheesing crota is disappointing
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Edited by SuBpeRBzSkiLLz: 1/7/2015 6:40:22 PMI find the deathsinger easy. Just open up her chamber, wait for the liturgy so she doesn't move or shoot at you, then charge in there and wreck her. Works every time.
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The funniest thing is that the only part of this raid I have done legit is deathsinger, which gives no rewards......
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That's the problem. It's a pain, takes some time and no drops. Pointless. I've done it, not hard.
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It's easier than Finding a crota checkpoint..
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Kill a hundred nights lol. Funny because it's so true. I actually really enjoy the deathsinger fight. The only thing that sh!ts me is that you're not rewarded for it like you were for gatekeepers in VoG, which I feel is a similar pre-boss phase. The group I raid with always do it legit on first characters but then, since there's no reward, we'll pass the Crota CP to other characters. This week we four manned it pretty comfortably.
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Fight through it to Crota on your first run. Grab the checkpoint on other characters. Skip Deathsinger the remaining two runs. Profit
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Edited by Shturman: 1/7/2015 5:50:13 PMIts not worth doing if you have a checkpoint, but might as well get the checkpoint yourself.. I've done the deathsinger all of 4 times or so. 2 times with a regular group, once solo and once 2 manning. I just do it once then skip it on all the other characters. Oh and funny thing Is, I beat it the first time i tried on solo... I was doing it for the shits and giggles but I ended taking down the bich
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I understand why people want to skip it because she drops nothing, but the truth is that it's not a hard fight at all and is actually a pretty fun fight.
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Edited by sargent100: 1/7/2015 5:36:38 PMI actually find this fight to be fun. whats better is the only way to "cheese" it is to just avoid it by someone having a crota check point. When it starts to get out of hand and crazy is the most fun in the raid. Edit: it would be nice if there were at least shards/energies as a reward for doing it though.
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Worst thing is its actually one of the cooler parts of the whole Raid!
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If they don't want people to skip it make it drop mats, very simple. It's retarded the way it is now.
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Lol actually did it last night cuz I was too lazy to find a crota cp. Ended up being a fairly easy fight. Only took around 5-10 minutes. I was surprised, and we were only a fireteam of 5
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The whole raid is an easy fight. The Desthsinger is one of the best parts. -blam!- rewards lets kill shit!
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This part of the raid is actually really easy, but those without maxed weapons (shouldn't be there anyway) will have trouble.
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The very first time my buddies and I got there it took us about an hour to figure it out and beat this part. Now we can do it the first time in under 5 minutes. It is NOT that hard people!
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For my clan it's simple: Drops no loot then it's worth skipping. We will do it once and then immediately save Crota to all of our alts just so we don't have to do it again. And once we learned we could solo that part like a week ago, we stopped doing it legit altogether. It's not a fun fight since it's so messy, and it has no loot. Why do it? Bungie rushed the shit out of Crota raid imo. It's super short and so many ways to cheese it all. I don't mind that they rushed it since we were so starved for content, but all this shit better be fixed in time for hard mode.
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Did it solo this morning. I can't understand why people are so lazy.
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Witches are bats,h.i,t crazy fun... but you know what? if you dont get anything from it and someone has crota checkpoint its stupid not to skip them
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Ive beaten crota several times easily and you're right, thw Crota raid isn't hard at all. The deathsinger is the more difficult part but its not as hard as people make it out to be. I will admit to cheesing because it's a part of the game right now BUT when they patch it I'll still be able to beat the raid. I cheese because I can. Atheon raid is so much better because it still has a level pf difficulty thats makes it hard. Beating Crota legit only takes 40-45 minutes.
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Sadly I carry half my clan through the entire raid....sadface
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You answered your own question