Yeah and real MMO's have more than a 5-10 hour main "grind" along with a single raid to run over and over until you hit the cap. They have single areas bigger than every planet on destiny. They have more than 1 tiny ass tower, 100x the number of NPC's, hell some of them even have stories and lore that exist IN GAME! Destiny is too shallow and tiny to pretend this isn't an issue have them not "add" anything to the game.. they simply take away one grind and give us a new one, the game is still to small for that to be acceptable.